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Originally, protestantism became state-supported because the sovereigns of Northern Europe gave the priests an offer they couldn't refuse: We'll confiscate your land, but we'll hire you out of the public purse if you don't make too much fuss about it.

After the institution was established, seeking to revoke the special status of the church would risk being seen as not supporting the Christian faith, something that only really became socially acceptable in the 20th century. So it persisted.

Today, it's useful for the sovereign to have the priests on its payroll. Keeps them from making trouble and sticking their noses in affairs that really aren't any of their business. The priests like it too, because it means they don't have to actually convince people to come to church in order to get paid. The laity like it because it's a reassuring, stable institution.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Oct 18th, 2010 at 08:04:31 AM EST
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Originally, protestantism became state-supported because the sovereigns of Northern Europe gave the priests an offer they couldn't refuse: We'll confiscate your land, but we'll hire you out of the public purse if you don't make too much fuss about it.

Hm. Wasn't it more a consequence of the Peace of Westphalia, specifically its adoption of the Peace of Augsburg clause cuius regio, eius religio from a century earlier? Prior to which, there were religious wars, when the 'persuasion' of the clergy of the wrong denomination took the form of killing them?

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by DoDo on Mon Oct 18th, 2010 at 11:40:15 AM EST
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On the continent, yes, but not so much so much in the Nordic countries - Sweden (including Finland) and Denmark-Norway (including Iceland). The history of reformation here is more similar to that of England and took place at about the same time: the church denomination was decided by the king, the property was confiscated and the priests were employed by the government.

Some bishops were executed, but that in general had more to do with them being members of opposing clans then religious issues.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Oct 18th, 2010 at 12:50:14 PM EST
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Some of the new Protestant priests were lynched by a the local peasants, who for some reason or another objected to the reform. But that was relatively rare.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Oct 18th, 2010 at 01:39:18 PM EST
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