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You do tend to Rorschach your limited viewpoint and not read what was written.

The people who have officially left the church recently (and probably many of those before them) are registering their protest at the narrow-mindedness of Christian Democrat attitudes and the church leaders who fail to show the compassion and humanity that these 'believers' (mostly women, apparently) regard as central to their 'faith'.

As I pointed out, the basic social values promoted (that are not exclusive to the Lutheran religion) are why people continue to cling to the institution. These are values that I try to adhere to myself - even though I am an atheist.

In fact, in the Nordics generally, these 'compassionate' social values more coincide with religious values than are a product of them. Nordic 'tolerance' is a result of these values, and intolerance (sometimes described as racism) stems from a (mistaken) perception that people from outside the culture may not hold these basic values.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Oct 16th, 2010 at 09:47:14 AM EST
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So. A '2'. That's your best shot?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Oct 16th, 2010 at 10:19:48 AM EST
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these 'believers' (mostly women, apparently)

You wrote that 80% of Finns is still a church member. If so, the 10,000 leaving now aren't necessarily from the circle of this apparently mostly female core of the upkeepers of church affairs as par of social life, we can give Lynch that much. But, as askod wrote upthread, what we know about these 10,000 is hat they changed their denomination, not that they changed any of their core beliefs.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 16th, 2010 at 01:51:01 PM EST
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Yep. I don't believe (though cannot prove) they changed their core beliefs at all. As I said, their view of basic social values coincides with Lutheran orthodoxy, rather than is driven by it.

For them, the current Lutheran view (and especially the Christian Democrat view) is unorthodox.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Oct 16th, 2010 at 02:20:18 PM EST
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