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A dignified income for everyone, retired or not, is not a (finalcial!?) product looking for a freer market.

--YET! And unless the proponents of privatization of pensions succeed. But it is those proponents desired framing.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 11:10:23 AM EST
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Why is the EU policy apparatus framing the issue in a way that makes pension privatization the natural outcome and forces any other policy proposal to be argued against the grain?

Are they even aware of their framing? I'm sure if pressed they'd claim to be technocratic and politically neutral.

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 11:40:36 AM EST
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You might consider that the technocrats have been exposed to a massive mis-education in political economics and also that most might have a long standing bias towards the more conservative and, especially, the more wealthy elements of the societies in which they serve. Socialist governments and parties in Europe have been on the defensive for so long that there is now very little left to defend, at least in the domain of popular conceptions of the society and economy. Unless there is effective push back this will remain the case.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 01:57:23 PM EST
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Socialist governments and parties in Europe have been on the defensive for so long that there is now very little left to defend, at least in the domain of popular conceptions of the society and economy.

They are as culpable as anyone for the misgovernment of the past 15+ years.

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 02:48:48 PM EST
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And I thought you were trying to be charitable to the "technocrats"! Perhaps you meant some scare quotes around the word claim?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 12:34:10 AM EST
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