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The new Vienna station is certainly more worthwhile and easier to construct. Tracks will essentially stay in place, no 66km of tunneling. Two terminus stations that lie 'back to back' are transformed into a single through-station. Makes sense.

Unfortunately, there are the same marketing slogans (at least as transmitted by the know-nothing media (German tagesschau)): "removing the dead end", "Center of Europe", "Bahnhofs-City", "Paris-Bratislava", "Danzig-Adria", and as a special twist "Middle Germany - Athens - Black Sea". Who are those people kidding?

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 10:08:24 AM EST
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Not only the slogans are the same, but it is a real estate project in disguise, too. The two old terminus stations were destroyed completely, and so were the servicing tracks and maintenance shops that were next to them: lots of space created for those new office buildings. In addition, the new central station will take over from the third terminus station (the Westbahnhof) and Wien-Meidling as the main long-distance stop -- but unlike those two, it lacks a subway connection.

I also note that like Wendlingen-Ulm, a project adjacent to Vienna's new main station is the Lainzer and Wienerwald tunnel complex, over 27 km of tunnels that are part of TEN-17 which IMO make eminent sense.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 10:28:44 AM EST
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The above is fluff; on the following picture, you can see the actual extent of the real estate project better (all the light and medium grey buildings, including the skyscrapers, are planned new construction on former railway area):

...and here is the Stuttgart 21 real estate project:


Someone is gonna get rich, and it's neither taxpayers, nor DB...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 12:31:39 PM EST
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Privatize gains, socialize losses.

Although DB gets off pretty well here. They pay almost nothing, less than they would for a simple renovation/modernization. DB Projektbau GmbH is paid handsomely for their expert planning and execution.

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 02:36:47 PM EST
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LOL :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 04:14:18 PM EST
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I'd be happy with "Vienna-Venice" a connection which just vanished (even using local trains) apart from the night train. But this could be done without building anything new....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Oct 5th, 2010 at 10:33:20 AM EST
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