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So why get into it and learn to swim? You have no idea unless you try it out yourself. Not everybody becomes a deep sea diver but learning to swim could keep you from drowning.

excellent analogy!

sometimes meditation is like sub-aqua exploration, enabling us to go to study deeper, more obscure subconscious flora and fauna than is commonly perceived.

here beyond white whales and kraaken... the deeper, the stranger.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 1st, 2010 at 06:45:54 AM EST
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"I had a weird experience, therefore God" is the epitome of arrogance: your personal experience defines the universe.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Nov 1st, 2010 at 07:18:42 AM EST
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no, your personal experience informs, guides, balances and energises your universe. it's not arrogant to affirm that.

what starts off weird becomes a delight.

at first it can be extremely shocking, and self-preservation can block one from the relaxation necessary to fully grok what's happening.

...because we've been raised to be afraid of what's beyond our immediate ken.

if we take it gently, we can learn to go further from shore. what is most helpful is to refer to others who have learned to do so, as the line between mysticism and psychosis is a fine one, just as the difference between a jolly jaunt and something scarier can be small.

fortunately we have records of those who have navigated these psychic shoals, and their words and souvenirs can encourage us when life becomes too dispiriting.

bless every one of 'em!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 1st, 2010 at 08:27:32 AM EST
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Thank you.

The analogy is incomplete, though.

It is crucial to check out the waters first with the means at your disposal (other people, newspaper articles, coast guard).
Is the water poisoned, are there sharks in it or are there dangerous vortexes?
And if you've never swum at all, you're well advised to take some lessons first and stay near the coastline.

To take this back to the reality we're discussing, it means to me that I rely on certain Scripture/dogmatic parameters. If I'm offered a loving and miracle-doing guru-incarnation of God, I won't go there, no matter how real the miracles and his love are. I will classify him under 'false prophet' period.

The assessment of what criteria someone wishes to rely on is mostly rational. Which is the narrative that makes sense to you, even if questions remain at the end of the day? If you find something that makes sense, it's that you consider the water trustworthy...

by Lily (put - lilyalmond - here <a> yahaah.france) on Mon Nov 1st, 2010 at 07:28:13 AM EST
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