Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
European Tribune - The "Euro Crisis" - Both more and less than meets the eye
Ireland is run by corrupt halfwits.
Who are reportedly stalling until after the November 25 elections, because they don't want the loss of face from a rescue to affect their electoral performance.

Not that the corrupt halfwits running Germany didn't do the same in the Spring. Except that on that occasion they weren't stalling on their own finances but on Greece's.

Of all the ways of organizing banking, the worst is the one we have today — Mervyn King, 25 October 2010

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 04:54:23 AM EST
In the Irish case, its only a bye election for one seat in Donegal - one the Government will probably lose to Sinn Fein in any case.  One of the more unfortunate domestic political fall-outs of the crisis is the empowering of Sinn Fein - ironically the only party to take a rational stance on the bank bail-out issue.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 05:02:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks for the context the Spanish newsie didn't provide...

Of all the ways of organizing banking, the worst is the one we have today — Mervyn King, 25 October 2010
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 05:04:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Since you wrote "unfortunate" I have to ask: Except being right on the bank bail-out, what is Sinn Fein's politics now that there is peace in North Ireland?

Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
by A swedish kind of death on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 07:49:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
really doing the right thing here, why is it unfortunate they are capitalising on this in Donegal?

Seems to me you vote and work for the ones who are looking after your interests, regardless of what their history may have been...

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 08:29:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I say unfortunate becuase Sinn Fin comes from the physical force tradition and has also been associated with vigilante groups down south.  I had a personal experience of an attempt at intimidation by a local SF councillr.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 09:32:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Understood, and intimidation in any form is of course obnoxious, and perhaps the party's history as one of resistance accentuates the tendancy towards intimidation on the part of its members. Not being anywhere near it (and being totally against the sort of violence its military arm employed in the UK and elsewhere in the past) I wouldn't deign to try to understand...

One would hope that with the passing from one generation to the next this will change. Violence aside though, looking from afar, they appear to be a credible left alternative in the tradition of James P Connolly, great man that he was.

Hopefully Gilmore will reconsider his zero-tolerance approach else I suspect you will not see much change, assuming Labor would instead need to partner with FG (or worse, FF) and meet the same fate they did 15 years ago.  

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Fri Nov 19th, 2010 at 05:28:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Labour's only hope is if they do well enough in the next election to be the majority partner in Government.  Historically, the minority partner always losses out - Chiefly Labour, but also the PDs, Workers Party, Greens etc.

I can't see either Fine Gael or Fianna Fail agreeing to be a minority partner with Labour, so that leaves a FF/FG coalition - Grandly entitled a National Coalition, but in reality a coalesing of the old guards.

That would leave Ireland with the standard European left/right split, but with the left keeping its hands clean of the current debacle.  Most people can't see the difference between FF and FG anyway, but there's nothing like a joint Government to expose their ideological near identity and the irrelevance of the split between them.

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Nov 19th, 2010 at 08:05:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Not mention plain, straightforward criminality.

Sinn Fein's friends are even less desirable than Fianna Fail's.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 19th, 2010 at 06:01:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I can't imagine that's their motivation. They're screwed anyway.

What am I saying? It's Fianna Fail. They never understand they're screwed.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 07:25:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Fianna FAIL™

Of all the ways of organizing banking, the worst is the one we have today — Mervyn King, 25 October 2010
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 18th, 2010 at 08:13:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Occasional Series