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Once a crisis appears, and once Congress fails to act - or acts against California's values - then you'd have a moment where CA could force a redefinition of the relationship to the US. Depending on the context, this is where the role of the military becomes very important.
I was in California in 2000-4, and I remember back then some paper or other (may have been the LA Times) published a wargame about the secession of California. Their premise was that, because California has so many military bases, especially air bases, it would be the only state which could mount a serious attempt at establishing air superiority over its own airspace (assuming the bases stayed under control of the state and not the federal government) which would be a necessary element of successful secession. The wargame was still supposed to end with a Federal victory...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 22nd, 2010 at 04:47:13 AM EST
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And that assumes the military sides with California and not the federal government - which, given the fact that most soldiers stationed here in CA are not from CA (I live in an apartment building full of soldiers attending one of the DoD schools in Monterey and the vast majority of them are from the South) seems unlikely for the time being. Another reason why I think outright secession would be some years away, although a political crisis that forces a redefinition of the state-federal relationship in the direction of more state autonomy seems very likely to happen in the near future.

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by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Mon Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:07:53 PM EST
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The obvious problem with that: The assumption that the bases stay loyal to Gullyvornyah.  The soldiers are from all over.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Nov 22nd, 2010 at 05:20:26 PM EST
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