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That's a complicating factor, but not an insurmountable obstacle. The US and Canada have a series of water treaties governing the Columbia River watershed that work well.

In fact, the 1922 Colorado River Compact ought to be renegotiated anyway. It allows an unsustainable taking of water from the river, and the allocations were drawn up during a particularly wet period, not taking into account the boom-and-bust nature of rainfall in the rivershed.

CA also imports some of its electricity, including from the Palo Verde Nuclear Station west of Phoenix. So that could require renegotiation.  But those aren't insurmountable barriers, and CA does have a lot of its own infrastructure. Besides, the state needs to reduce its per capita water and energy consumption anyway.

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by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Sun Nov 21st, 2010 at 06:12:19 PM EST
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Its also open to question what are the conditions that would make Pacific Northwest residents of Northern California willing to go which Pacific Northwest residents of Oregon and Washington would be immune to.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 21st, 2010 at 06:42:38 PM EST
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California, Oregon, and Washington would likely work together on some plan for greater state autonomy, redefinition of the relationship with the federal government, or outright dissolution of the union. In the latter case I could envision an independent California having trade and resource agreements with a nation-state that is a federation of Oregon and Washington (and maybe even BC).

Again, I suspect that's all some years away, though the unfolding economic/political crisis could accelerate the timeline. In any case, it seems fair to expect that the USA as we know it is going to see significant changes in how it is governed.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Sun Nov 21st, 2010 at 08:24:40 PM EST
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Of course these things take time ... but the US has never gone through a 75 year period without a major change in the order of things, so sometime in the next twenty years we are probably due. Whether we ride it out successfully or not is in the right people seeing which is the right side of the fight and then winning it.

A hollow shell center, as in the ancien regime of the DRC when it was the rotting nation-state of Zaire, is one possible outcome of failing to pick the right fight or to win it, but then the DRC is more akin to the US between the mountains (I guess that would make New Orleans equal to Kinshasa) than to the whole US. In the case of a hollow shell center, I'd expect the center would fail to hold.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 21st, 2010 at 10:39:23 PM EST
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