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Ugh.  This would make government unworkable. It would also be a huge invasion of privacy for both politicians and civil servants (the Wikileaks cables come mostly from mid-level civil servants).  Nobody could function this way. Imagine this for a private company and the implications for their ability to work together and interact with other companies.  And that's the problem I have with Cablegate - it's the sheer banality of it all that makes it hard to justify.  The vast majority of the stuff I've read is routine government communication of the sort I want foreign service officers to engage in.  The difficulties it causes America are mostly of the personal embarrassment kind, and the fear of actually doing their jobs properly.
by MarekNYC on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:17:45 PM EST
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Dude - you have a country which is running around the planet blowing people up at random, torturing them, giving vast hand-outs to mil-ind thugs, which is riddled with insider corruption, is starving its citizens and depriving them of income in the run up to the Christmas season, which has officially sanctioned random wiretaps without serious cause, and has taken to sexually abusing anyone who steps on a plane...

And you're complaining my suggestion would make government unworkable?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:22:54 PM EST
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Yup.  It also does a lot of the stuff a government needs to do.  And unlike you, I don't see the US as particularly bad except that its huge power allows for a greater scale of abusive behaviour.
by MarekNYC on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:30:10 PM EST
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You seem to have much lower expectations of sane, functional government than I do.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:35:37 PM EST
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You seem to have much more realistic lower expectations of sane, functional government than I do.
by MarekNYC on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:39:29 PM EST
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I, for one, welcome our new federal dick-measuring overlords.... ;)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Dec 4th, 2010 at 08:41:56 AM EST
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I thought you wrote 'click-measuring'...oh, but wait a mo....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 4th, 2010 at 09:11:08 AM EST
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Can't remember who first started calling the new TSA machines "The Federal Dick-Measuring Device," but I'm sticking with that.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Dec 4th, 2010 at 09:15:07 AM EST
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I beg to differ. Those cables contain a lot of names of European collaborators, who can now be hung out to dry in public. Of course developing Quislings is proper on-the-ground foreign policy for any diplomatic corps. I'd be downright disappointed if our own diplomats behaved any differently. But as a European, I'd still like to know when other people do it to us.

In particular, I learned something about the European secret police: They are either blind, dumb and deaf-mute for not already having those cables in their archives (with three million people having access to them, any serious intelligence agency should be able to get a data dump now and then); or that they are completely on board with politicians collaborating with the Americans. Considering how much time they spent chasing DFHs suspected of taking funding from the KGB, this reveals something of a double standard (either between the treatment of spies from different countries, or between hippies and politicians being spies).

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:30:37 PM EST
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El Pais is having a field day today exposing the entire PP leadership as quislings...

Of all the ways of organizing banking, the worst is the one we have today — Mervyn King, 25 October 2010
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:36:07 PM EST
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