I won: The Veterans Administration and Me | 35 comments (35 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: I won: The Veterans Administration and Me (none / 1)

I want to protect whatever I receive

Against which risks do you want protection?

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 07:38:49 AM EST

Re: I won: The Veterans Administration and Me (none / 1)

Well, to protect my lump sum which will be the last lump sum in my life. Maybe one day to have enough to buy my own apartment or house.

The thing is that I may be pretty savvy on investment vehicles in the US, but in Europe I am pretty clueless. I was actually thinking of investing with Jerome and his new firm.

I just want to protect what I have and maybe use it to make more. I was thinking German Bunds, since Germany is one of the last men standing in the crises. But I don't know for sure.

That is why I would like a list of things to present and talk about with my financial advisor. I just don't trust financial advisors to make the right choices for me in this day and age.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 07:59:15 AM EST
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Re: I won: The Veterans Administration and Me (4.00 / 4)

Well after yesterday, German financial advisors are probably advertising for bodyguards....

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 08:02:50 AM EST
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Congratulations (4.00 / 3)

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With your financial "problem!"

In The Netherlands, the savings deposits are insured 100% up to €100k.
I have chosen the Rabobank for my account, (AAA) triple A credit rated bank

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 08:14:57 AM EST
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Re: I won: The Veterans Administration and Me (4.00 / 2)

You keep not answering the question of against what you want to protect your lump sum. You sound like you're actually chasing returns but couching it in "protection" language.

I was actually thinking of investing with Jerome and his new firm.

Now there's an idea...

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 08:24:48 AM EST
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That is only because (none / 0)

of my own financial illiteracy.

Yea, I have no clue what to do with funds that I may be awarded with. Therefore I am seeking suggestions to bring up with my financial advisor.

So against what I have no idea. I just do not want to lose what I have. Like I said, I have no clue what to do with the money but I have heard that it is bad to leave in in a savings account. I have read "Gold Bitches" on the Zero Hedge website, but I have no place to store it.

Certainly I am using personal protectionist language, as I want to protect myself. I will have this check for the rest of my life but if the dollar becomes worthless, I am in a world of hurt.

Jerome's new venture seems to me as a new and lucrative investment opportunity. But I really don't know. Maybe I will risk it as it maybe better than leaving savings in a savings account.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 08:54:04 AM EST
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Re: That is only because (4.00 / 2)

I have no clue what to do with the money but I have heard that it is bad to leave in in a savings account

You have heard from whom that it is bad how?

This is like how I hear all the time that renting is throwing away your money and you should own your home. If I had listened to the clamour of the Beotians and taken a mortgage on a London home in 2006 I'd be in a world of pain right now.

if the dollar becomes worthless, I am in a world of hurt

You live in Europe now, and you say the VA will put the money into a Euro account in a German bank, so what do you care what happens to the dollar once you get the money?

I am seeking suggestions to bring up with my financial advisor

My suggestion is don't talk to a financial advisor. And if you do, don't put your money into any product you cannot figure out (yeah, I mean doing the math and reading the legal small print) for yourself. I suspect if you follow the second part of the advice, meeting with the advisor is a waste of time.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:15:03 AM EST
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Re: That is only because (4.00 / 2)

You live in Europe now

He may have other sources of income: Social Security, pension, 401k etc that are impossible, or very expensive, to move to Euro accounts.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:29:39 AM EST
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Re: That is only because (none / 1)

We're not being told that. We're only being told about a € lump sum to be "protected" - JD broached the issue of deposit insurance to "protect" the lum sum against one clear danger. Maybe we're not getting the full picture but then again, we're not financial advisors nor are we being asked for investment advice.

The financial advisor will do the following: they will ask about current income, age, assets and desired post-retirement income and will advise on a pension plan made of an initial lump sum plus periodic contributions out of income. If any money is left over they will advise on how to increase the capital. They will do a standard "so much percent into government securities, so much percent into corporate debt, so much percent into equities" and so forth with a "low/medium/high" risk-profile adjusted for age and proximity of retirement and will offer a collection of managed funds with various advertised risk/asset profiles.

In other words, a load of hogwash.

Since we haven't heard anything specific to protect against other than insolvency of the custodians of JD's assets, and suitable discussion of deposit insurance has been had...

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:40:29 AM EST
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Re: That is only because (none / 1)

I am currently rated 60%, which is

Veteran Alone $974

With this new rating I am looking at lifetime payments (as long as the US Treasury is solvent) of:

70% 80% 90% 100$%
Veteran Alone $1,228 $1,427 $1,604 $2,673

Lifetime monthly payments

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 02:37:27 PM EST
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Actually (none / 0)

No 401k. Social Security Disability is being determined with the courts and my attorney at the moment. That is another, at least 40lk since my claim is from 2005. But I am not including that in my award at this time. The VA decision certainly helps with the SSA With the VA decision, SSDI is looking more promising.

There is also the possibility, because of the tax treaties, that once I receive my Niederlassung, permanent residence permit here in Germany, that my years of contributing to SSA will count for German retirement insurance.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:54:08 AM EST
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Re: Actually (4.00 / 2)

My understanding of the latter point is that the tax treaties mean that time spent working in either country contributes to the minimum amount of time you need to qualify, but that you actually get paid from both countries in a way that is related to how much you paid in each (and, I'm afraid, in the appropriate currencies as well).

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 10:17:22 AM EST
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Thanks Migeru (none / 0)

I understand that the inflation does not keep up with the savings rate of a savings account. Therefore savings accounts are bad.

Your advice not to listen to any financial adivsor is sound. I can understand Goethe and Schiller and poetry. But when it comes to bureauratic and legal German, it's all Greek to me. It is hard to understand.

So I am like a child, I am like a pensioner with money to take - a fool with their money is soon parted!

I just do not wish to be a fool

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:40:50 AM EST
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Re: Thanks Migeru (4.00 / 7)

I understand that the inflation does not keep up with the savings rate of a savings account. Therefore savings accounts are bad.

It is possible that this is not the case right now. Banks are still starved of cash, if you can believe it, to beef up their "core capital". So it is possible that certain deposit or money market accounts (even some checking accounts) pay high interest rates. In addition, right now we're experiencing deflation.

I am like a child, I am like a pensioner with money to take

Widows and orphans have no place in the financial casino. So we regulate mutual funds in order to make them "safe" for widows and orphans. But in making them "safe" we make them slow and vulnerable to nimbler market players so they are just like the proverbial widows and orphans. So the widows and orphans lose their money in the casino anyway. So, the moral of the story is: if you're not safe by yourself in the casino, don't give your money to someone else to play in the casino for you.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 09:49:24 AM EST
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Re: That is only because (4.00 / 5)

Re: Gold

Uh ... don't.

There are way too many players in that commodity market with a bee in their bonnet (Gold Bugs) and way too many sharks, with or without laser beams on their heads.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 01:44:28 PM EST
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Re: I won: The Veterans Administration and Me (none / 1)

Just remember that in Germany, custodianship of securities is customary, rather than delivering the actual certificates to the holders. Banks charge a fee for this "service". However...

I was thinking German Bunds,

The government offers custodianship free of charge for its papers (something the banks won't mention) if you decide to go that root.

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The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Mar 24th, 2010 at 05:30:31 PM EST
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