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And the link between demand certainty and upstream investment (and midstream infrastructure) is real, but if you don't have the demand then you don't need the investments either... Wind power
'subsidizing' renewables presumably reduces demand for gas, which is the main alternative source of power these days (although that argument forgets the screams by the power industry against wind for needing 'back-up' and the reality that gas-fired power plants are quite compatible with wind...)
This seems to be the case in Spain, where there's pushback against the current system of electric feed in tariffs which favor wind and solar over combined cycle gas.........
As it stands now the feed in tariff for solar is through the roof, and something like 2000 MW of thermal solar capacity are going to be coming online in the country in the next 1-2 years.
On an up note, I think that the "demand reduction" approach to renewables, that is arguing that having wind online means that you can cut the capacity factor at natural gas and coal fired plants, is a huge public relations argument that hasn't been well made.
Particularly where it reduces demand for coal, the carbon savings of wind on a marginal bases are through the roof. If there was a carbon trading scheme in place, I'd think that you could funnel fees from carbon emissions into wind. That would help provide a source of funding to get renewables off the ground. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
At current levels of penetration in Spain, that merit-order effect bites into utilities revenues seriously (the savings for consumers are larger than the cost of the feed-in tariffs, thus making "subsidies" for renewable energy paying for themselves instantly).
But nobody EVER discusses this. Wind power
This is extremely unfortunate, because this is probably the strongest public relations argument for the introduction of renewables, because it turns the argument that this will drive up costs on its head.
In fact, the introduction of renewables drives down the wholesale price of power, in effect creating competitive advantage. Delaying that creates the same sort of rent-seeking that you see with financial sector.
Is there any sector of the economy where private rent-seeking isn't a major component of profits? And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Is there any sector of the economy where private rent-seeking isn't a major component of profits?
No. The payment of the factors of production is always in large part politically determined, so all profits (and all wages, for that matter) are always in large part zero-sum rent seeking.
- Jake Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.
And that is precisely why market architecture will continue to evolve - driven by increasingly direct connections - to a dis-intermediated model within a partnership framework.
In fact, the evolution of 'for profit' transaction intermediaries to service provision is ongoing, because capital requirements are thereby minimised. Moreover, a partnership framework is inherently co-operative, and within such a framework there is no profit and no loss. "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
In fact, the introduction of renewables drives down the wholesale price of power, in effect creating competitive advantage.
bingo, that's why they've been fighting renewables tooth and nail, first with lies, then obfuscation, and more lies.
it's worked, because so few people are shifting gears on this, and even for those who want to, here in italy the bureaucracy is such a documentary minefield, i heard of someone giving up half way the other day.
meanwhile the friend i recommended to the guy that sorted me, has finished his installation, the company is giving me a cut, and my friend has already found 4 more clients.
the engineer who did mine was so 'on it', nothing fazed him, and he terriered through to the end.
that kind of tenacious competence is as rare as rubies in the dust around here...
there are even ads on tv touting it, but the average consumer is still balking, eve with total financing from the banks, (which my friend did, making the payback period 11 years instead of 7 if he had financed it himself, before all the power he 'creates' is all his.)
when i think about all the hard sell tech used to sell every kind of crap under the sun (sic), it is quite maddening to see such a magnificent opportunity fro Italy to become self-sufficient, or at least much more so, so weakly promoted. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
And now, happily the EWEA and Pöyry (4.6MB pdf) do too.
The report finds that in the studies reviewed by Pöyry, electricity prices were reduced by between 3 and 23 /MWh depending on the amount of wind power.
http://www.bmu.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/gutachten_eeg.pdf
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