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Seems to me that terrain and geography matters a lot.

I've driven a lot in Greece, Italy and Spain. Italy and Spain are big countries with very diversified terrain. I once spent 36 hours on a train from Padova to Sicily (and yes, it broke down a number of times, but was not stopped for more than an hour at any given time). Greece is pretty mountainous and Spain is just big.

by Upstate NY on Fri Apr 9th, 2010 at 01:35:30 PM EST
That's an important observation. Spain and Portugal have the Pyrenees between them and the centre of Europe. Italy has the Alps and a very mountainous north. Greece is sort of an island with the Balcans in-between. Ireland is a real island. This has to be a factor too.

Note though that peripheral states (e.g. Estonia) and Switzerland have similar problems but do not suffer from the same pathology.


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by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Fri Apr 9th, 2010 at 02:41:23 PM EST
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Then you'd have to look at Austria because it's all Alps out there :P

And, lo and behold, Austria is the next most oil-dependent country in the EU, after the PIIGS.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Apr 10th, 2010 at 03:35:56 AM EST
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Luis de Sousa:
Italy has the Alps and a very mountainous north.

the appenines, while being a lot less formidable than the alps, stretch down beyond the north, and definitely make travel more energy intensive.

nothing more and better branch lines couldn't solve though.

as for energy deficit, i have often heard Italy imports 75% of its electricity, the daily hemorrhage of capital should have people in the streets, but it doesn't, unless you count beppe grillo's five star movement.

maybe this is improving as i am seeing more solar PV panels popping up all over, thanks to trying to keep up with the EU carbon reduction commitments.

on a more disturbing note, there used to be little signs by the roads entering many towns with a white dove on them, stating the community's opposition to nuclear power. they were one of the first things i noticed when coming here 18 years ago.

they seem to be disappearing in this area.

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Apr 10th, 2010 at 12:34:31 PM EST
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Spain is not just big, also very mountainous, though mountain ranges tend to run East/West so that only North/South travel should be seriously impeded.  But the mountain ranges do reach all the way to the coast.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Apr 10th, 2010 at 03:38:05 AM EST
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