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I like your comment about Obama being very strictly disciplined and prioritized - I tend to think of him as unorganized and flailing, but that is because I am a radical in some respects, and he is not a radical.

Normally I write from a pragmatic perspective respecting the realities of what is possible given the interests of the elites and the structures of power.

That is why some around here consider me a moderate or even a conservative.  Sometime I see things getting so dysfunctional that there is a serious risk of things going seriously awry - e.g. a serious escalation towards war in the middle east.

Traditionally conservative and right wing have been linked. I think that has been a mistake. I would see Noam Chompsky as a conservative. There are a whole lot of radicals on the left who do not like him, I suspect because of it. Angry Arab had a nasty comment about him (I felt out of context) recently.

[Conservatism] is a political and social philosophy that says that traditional institutions work best and society should minimize change. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others oppose modernism and seek a return to the way things were.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

The first part I agree with, the second part I disagree with. A left-wing conservative would seek gradual change towards a particular left-wing type of system.

There's a lot to be said for gradual change as opposed to revolution. (That's not to say that revolutionary change is never desirable.) I believe that the parliamentary system is better than the checks and balances system. The Parliamentary system evolved over time, and I believe actually provides better checks and balances than the US system where there is no clear chain of who is responsible. I remember cringing as the Soviet Union broke up with how it appeared that the US was encouraging things to happen as fast as possible.

By temperament, I would probably like to be on the conservative end of things... Maybe that's why I like reading your posts. I want to be a far left radical conservative.

aspiring to genteel poverty

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 09:42:32 AM EST
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That's the official definition of conservatism, but I don't think it's accurate - or at least it's w hite wash job that doesn't truly explain conservatve psychology.

In practice conservatives:

  1. Value war and violence, and promote and identify with narratives of personal, familial and national omnipotence.

  2. Approve of strict social and racial hierarchies and are indifferent to - or favour - abuse and segregation of those they consider alien, different or inferior.

  3. As a corollary to 1. and 2., conservatives actively seek personal privilege and do not accept the rule of law for themselves.

  4. Conservatives approve of law for others when the law is used as in 2.

  5. Conservatives approve of 'competition' as long as it is supported by privilege. Conservatives do not support truly open, free competition.

In short, for a conservative to win, someone else must lose - and they must be seen to lose. Publicly. Preferably in a ritualised game whose outcome is rigged.

Conspicuously absent from this list is rational strategy. Conservatives are capable of calculation, but not of prediction. Most of their responses are reactions, not innovations.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:37:10 AM EST
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in my mind, conservative and conservationist should be synonyms, and your position is totally logical.

as long as conservative continues to mean the opposite, in the sense of right wing pols being bought by polluting industries, and liberal means laissez-faire milton friedman 'straussian economics', language has become so perverted that up is down...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jun 1st, 2010 at 11:43:34 AM EST
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