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I think this has to count as the most prescient comment from the predecessor thread:

DoDo:

Walking into the Ypsilanti trap, IMO.

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Andrea Ypsilanti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before the 2008 election, Ypsilanti had promised on many occasions to never work together with the Left Party. However, after a "grand coalition" with the CDU was ruled out, Ypsilanti ultimately decided to cooperate with the Left Party in order to be elected prime minister and overcome the deadlock. The first attempt was abandoned after Dagmar Metzger, one of her own party's representatives in the Landtag, declared she would not vote for Ypsilanti.

A second attempt to elect Ypsilanti prime minister was scheduled for 4 November 2008. However, one day prior to the election, three other SPD representatives - Carmen Everts, Silke Tesch, and Jürgen Walter (vice chairman of the Hesse SPD) - also announced that they would vote against her, making it impossible for Ypsilanti to gain the needed majority. This, in turn, forced the dissolution of the Landtag and the scheduling of new elections for 18 January 2009. On 8 November 2008, Ypsilanti withdrew her candidacy in favor of Thorsten Schäfer-Gümbel, who became the SPD's new lead candidate (Spitzenkandidat).



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 07:07:30 AM EST
Macht-Optionen in NRW: SPD macht sich locker für den Linksschwenk - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik

Lange sahen Kraft und die SPD am Vorabend wie die Gewinner der Landtagswahl aus, mitten in der Nacht dann die böse Wendung: Die CDU von Ministerpräsident Jürgen Rüttgers lag am Ende mit gut 6000 Stimmen vor den Sozialdemokraten. "Wir sind in Düsseldorf eingeschlafen und in Wiesbaden aufgewacht", sagt Thorsten Schäfer-Gümbel einem TV-Team im Willy-Brandt-Haus. Hessens SPD-Chef kann sich noch gut dran erinnern, wie seine Vorgängerin Andrea Ypsilanti im Januar 2008 einen Abend lang wie die baldige Ministerpräsidentin Wahlsieger aussah - und dann noch von der CDU überholt wurde.

Der Name Ypsilanti ist auch aus einem anderen Grund plötzlich wieder in aller Munde: Denn NRW-Spitzenfrau Kraft kann nach Lage der Dinge nur dann Ministerpräsidentin werden, wenn sie außer den Grünen auch die Linken mit ins Boot holt. Sich tolerieren lassen, wie Ypsilanti es in Hessen versuchte, das will Kraft allerdings nicht. Also eine richtige Koalition? "Das werden wir heute Abend in den Gremien besprechen", sagt Kraft im Willy-Brandt-Haus.

Short summary: said Schäfer-Gümbel joked that people went to bed in (NRW capital) Düsseldorf but waked up in (Hessen capital) Wiesbaden, and then the comparisons to Ypsilanti's situation follow. Asked whether, unlike Ypsilanti, Kraft will try an actual coalition with the Left Party, he says the SPD's leadership will discuss that tonight.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 02:31:21 PM EST
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Some media say that Kraft's pre-election rejection of the Left Party was weaker than Ypsilanti's, only amounting to a declaration that the NRW Left Party is a chaotic bunch not ready for government. I thought I read of something more decisive, have to look it up...

In the meantime, let me speculate: if the CDU has some clout, they will try a Grand Coalition by offering the post of PM to the SPD despite coming first.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 02:48:31 PM EST
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That would be the last we ever see of Jürgen.

Earlier today I seem to recall seeing (hearing?) some remark to the effect that Red/Green would try to convince individual Lefties (or maybe a left-leaning FDPer) to switch parties (unfortunately I can't find it again).

They would only need just one...

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 03:00:20 PM EST
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Hehehe, that would be truly ironic: importing the Romanian method to Düsseldorf...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 03:03:03 PM EST
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Stefan Reinecke of the taz suggests another possibility, the Israel model: a Grand Coalition, two and a half years with Armin as PM, two and a half years with Kraft. But deems the politica elite not ready for this.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue May 11th, 2010 at 04:23:20 AM EST
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This is going to be interesting indeed. Last night's microphone-shmoozing yielded a lot of remarks about "stability" and "keeping extremists out". (At least, these were two keywords that jumped out at me.)

The Left in NRW is still an untried quantity. Three weeks before the election the Left in Fail City had to swallow 56 resignations - all persons with migration background. (Though I have know idea whether this reflects the state of the party or just the usual Fail City way of doing things).

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 02:56:46 PM EST
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How did Köln acquire that charming moniker anyway?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon May 10th, 2010 at 04:11:44 PM EST
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To date this is only this blogger's opinion, but:

History Buried in the Rubble: Cologne Archive Building Collapses - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

The building housing Cologne's municipal archive collapsed on Tuesday, bringing parts of some surrounding structures down with it. At least two people are missing. Some of the documents housed in the archive date back to the year 922.

Need I say more? (I could though, believe me...)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Tue May 11th, 2010 at 03:02:28 AM EST
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