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The sad demise of serfdom will soon be corrected!

Looking at the recent election map ...

How long will Scotland and Wales put up with this?  (Serious question)  They certainly didn't vote for it and it is arguable most of England didn't vote for it either.

Of course NuLabour© wasn't promising anything much different -- AFAIK, you may have a better insight.

Does the UK need a Best Party?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 12:55:33 PM EST
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The fact that NuLab was no better was one of the more enraging aspects of the last election.

Whether Wales of Scotland are prompted to make further progress on independence is a moot point. I'm not sure either country can be economically independent (InWales or ChrisCook would know better than me), although if the euro recovers in the next few months that could become an attractive alternative.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 01:30:40 PM EST
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Salmond talks with Cameron on tax powers - Herald Scotland | News | Politics

Salmond main goal is to move the coalition beyond last year's Calman Commission on devolution, which said the Scottish Parliament should have control of raising around £6bn in income tax, or a fifth of the Scottish budget.

Now, with many Tories and LibDems regarding Calman as inadequate, Salmond will press for far wider tax powers.

Under full fiscal autonomy - the SNP's preferred option short of independence - all taxes except VAT, which European rules says must be uniform in the UK, would be devolved.

Scottish Government ministers regard the new UK Government as an ally in their pursuit of more powers.



"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 01:52:35 PM EST
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Whether Wales of Scotland are prompted to make further progress on independence is a moot point. I'm not sure either country can be economically independent (InWales or ChrisCook would know better than me), although if the euro recovers in the next few months that could become an attractive alternative.

I'm curious whether England is viable without membership in the European Union, because the Tories don't exactly love Brussels and we don't have any experience of new members entering the EU through subtraction.  What makes you think that England will automatically get the EU membership?  Or would want it?

It would be pretty hilarious to watch Festung Brittania wither on the vine as tariff walls get thrown up around the country, and the City moves to Switzerland.

Is it really Scotland, which is pro-European and probably could get into the EU regardless, really they one that needs to be worried here?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 03:00:19 PM EST
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Yea, we probably make it on GDP cos of the City. the fact that these shysters aren't taxed properly so they represent no net benefit to the economy is a different matter.

If england or the UK ever tries to leave the EU, I will try my damndest to be the rat jumping off the sinking ship

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 03:08:11 PM EST
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I shall join you in stealing a  rowing boat and heading for Calais  as a first step.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 03:17:43 PM EST
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The distinctive and joyous choice between having one's foot nailed to the floor XOR being boiled in oil has been the standard for US elections since I can remember.

So, I "share your pain."

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 03:01:33 PM EST
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Why XOR?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 04:48:52 PM EST
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Exclusive Or.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 05:56:42 PM EST
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You mean the choice is never for both?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:45:48 PM EST
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Given a number of possible results, 2 in this case, one and only one of the results is possible, available.

Contrast to the Inclusive Or where out of the number of possible result any or all of the results are possible, available.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:04:03 AM EST
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