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The new iPhone 4.0 has been introduced today, for delivery on 24 June.

The video and text is full of nuanced hurt for the eyes. Aluminum and glass technology that seems obviously cool now that they mention it, 325ppi to make the letters and pictures sharp, 720p video and 5Meg pictures, both with led light, video while talking, multitasking, and a few other interesting tech things...worth a watch at the apple.com site.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 04:23:32 PM EST
And iMovie.

If someone had, hypothetically, spent the last year and $n,000 developing a pocket video app, I suspect they could be somewhat pissed.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 04:41:41 PM EST
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Alas. Always a potential problem.

Usually there will be surprising parts missing from the OS version, which serves as a launch point for someone to take advantage of the lack.


Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 06:01:59 PM EST
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It could be worse: iMovie is going to be a $4.99 download, so at least it's possible to compete with them. The cases where they just add stuff to the OS are much more annoying.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 06:42:25 PM EST
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I thought feature-length was already available for iPod and iPhone. Do plan on watching many feature-length films on an iPhone screen?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 09:30:44 PM EST
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iMovie is for editing your own movies.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 05:59:16 AM EST
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Isnt this the sort of activity that ended up with Microsoft getting kicked round the courts for several years?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 07:18:37 PM EST
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That was then.

Apple now does hardware, music, video, books, advertising and software, and is trying to lock down a proprietary web technology.

Apart from that - not particularly.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 07:21:22 PM EST
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Proprietary web technology?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 05:48:33 AM EST
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And has what, a 25% market share at most in any of those areas.

Unlike MS's 98% share in the past or whatever the hell it was.

What Apple does have is about a 100% share of the media's attention.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 05:57:57 AM EST
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I doubt MS ever had more than 25% of the PC software market either.

It had nearly 100% of the PC OS market, which is rather different, and also engaged in restrictive anticompetitive practices against smaller competitors in sub-elements of that market.

Apple vs Flash, Apple vs Developers Who Do Things Apple Doesn't Like, Apple vs existing mobile ad platforms and Apple vs Alternatives to the App Store (which aren't allowed to exist), isn't the same thing at all.

Clearly.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 07:34:21 AM EST
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Office applications + OS were pretty comprehensive - and making money outside of the MS ecosystem was pretty difficult. If you don't like Apple you can make your money elsewhere. If Flash is so important, buy a phone or tablet that has it: there are lots.  Well, there aren't, but that's because Apple's argument about flash is clearly wrong. Don't like their developer rules? Develop for other platforms - again, lots of space out there.

MS nearly became a complete monoculture, with the odd weirdo and university holding out on free unices or Macs. I don't see that with Apple, not for quite  a long time, and I live in a world of their devices. The two situations don't look equivalent from here.

Apple are a big corporation. They're not nice. Neither are any of their competitors. You don't like it? Stop supporting them.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 08:37:30 AM EST
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I wasn't gone on the design until I saw the video in action. Looks as if it might be quite nice now. Nothing all that compelling to drive an early upgrade for a 3GS user though, unless nose-hair chat is something that's important to you. I swear, when they invent anti-gravity, it'll be so that we can float our gadgets in appropriate places for movie watching and video calls ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 06:44:47 PM EST
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Well, it does have a gyroscope.

But I'd guess this doesn't mean you can perch it on a pencil and it won't fall off.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 7th, 2010 at 07:16:44 PM EST
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The gyroscope struck me as an odd add-on, but I suspect it could be quite useful for gaming.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 04:30:40 AM EST
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The 'gyroscope' + accelerometer gives you 6 axis info that will be useful for gaming. But it could also enable other interesting creative tools. For instance the combining of video with orientation information would allow a reconstruction of camera motion in space in a 3D modelling environment.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 06:22:31 AM EST
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I think it was a 'Hey, it's cheap, let's put it in' decision.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 07:37:25 AM EST
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That's what they said about ringtones ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 08:02:33 AM EST
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As a direct challenge to Nintendo and their fancy Wii controller add-on that I suddenly forget the name of. I reached the point where the idea of a DS as a casual gaming machine became silly some time ago - the iPhone is always there and adequate for the job. New input stuff will help with that and, as Sven says, open up other possibilities.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 08:26:32 AM EST
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As Colman said, probably not worth the upgrade for a 3GS user, but it looks like a pretty good jump from the 3G that I'm on.

My wish list was for a redesign, A4 processor (still curious to know the speed on that), better battery life, and 32/64GB storage.  A 4G radio would've been nice, but it wouldn't have made much sense since, with the exception of Sprint, the carriers here won't really have the 4G networks up until next year.

They hit most of them.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jun 8th, 2010 at 04:42:03 AM EST
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