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The only thing he did was calling you an astroturfer and a troll. Everything else was pretty factual.
By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
I stand by my calling astroturf, though. Incessant posting of un- or mis-attributed third-party content, without appropriate markup and to several different sites (the deleted diary appeared at Booman, OpenLeft and here, in completely identical versions, with the same erroneous attribution and with no notification whatsoever in any of those places that they were being crossposted) and insisting on putting them in the place where they will get the highest possible profile to casual visitors, rather than where they will fit into the way the community works, are all indicators of a person who is using the site, as opposed to contributing to it.
Astroturf is as astroturf does.
Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.
But we agree that we have not seen this kind of behavior, diary police actions, slamming diarists, diary hijacking, and the like, since we were both on Daily Kos. There it was principally unleashed by groups of right wing Zionists (which is how I referred to them), GIYUS operatives and the like. But it was interesting nonetheless. Only it was unexpected if pretty low-brow and anti-intellectual from otherwise smart people. That's right, isn't it?
You call that "diary policing." Most other people around here call it "quality control," an application of which was long overdue in this case.
You and/or Migeru, the two of you who hijacked my diary, will really have to document for me and everyone else, these two points because quite frankly, I do now believe you are just full of crap, a liar. So point to the diaries and comments that you say conformed to these points, that made the both of you decide to trash me and my diary for over two hours, and have continued to do so on this tread, an incredibly stupid thing to do.
In point of fact, I'd like you to pick any one of your diaries, and we can match it against any one of mine, Migeru's, Colman's, afew's, Jerome's or Crazy Horse's.
I'm betting to Zim$ that you're gonna come up short in that comparison.
i was almost offended by shergald's lack of understanding, or willingness to accept another's views. that's enough from me.
"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
You call that "diary policing." Most other people around here call it "quality control," an application of which was long overdue in this case."
The persistent violations of several items of the user guidelines and unconstructive and disruptive attitude, were said to have prompted the attack. I asked for documentation from past diaries and comments, and none was forthcoming, precisely because nothing like this can be substantiated. So I disagree with them and believe it was a trumped up charge.
Then I went AFK, and you flamed out and went into a tailspin with three or four increasingly incoherent and insulting screeds, which the frontpagers mercifully decided to hide from view. Presumably to protect what little good repute you have left.
But let's take it once again for heritor-prince Knud: Improper use of third-party content, undeclared crossposting and conspiracy theory peddling.
You also hid the comment in which I reminded you that two years ago you complained to Jerome about IP diaries on the site. As as far as I can tell, you have put together, as you admitted, a group of frontpagers, two anyway, that decided to hijack my diary, engage in ad hominum attacks, insults (troll, Oui a pompous prick), and false assertions, like those above.
Your obvious agenda is to get IP off the frontpage. I can only suspect your motives, but we shall see if you succeed.
I hid your comments in this thread. JakeS has no means of doing so (or hiding any other comments), he is not a member of the editorial team.
The accusation that there is an agenda to get Israel-Palestine off the front page is totally baseless. You were invited before to look at another diary on the subject by the stormy present, it's not just about the ships, to see what JakeS has to say there. I suggest you do so.
This discussion must end here. Any further rancorous comments -- on either side -- will be simply deleted.
And it was Jake who kept suggesting that my diaries should go into the Salon, or be represented by a newspaper headline with link.
I also did ask you and Migeru to substantiate the false charges Jake made. He won't; he can't.
I don't think I would care to attend to his
Not his diary, the stormy present's. But if you don't want to see, keep your eyes shut.
Now let's end this.
Comment by JakeS deleted.
End of discussion.
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