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So the whole thread has turned into a discussion of driving mores -I suppose this is fitting given LA's reputation to be a car place.

We did walk a lot, but what struck me most is how people will casually drive 5-10km to go buy groceries (or tyres) or to go get takeaway food.

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 05:02:01 AM EST
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what struck me most is how people will casually drive 5-10km to go buy groceries (or tyres) or to go get takeaway food
Welcome to suburbia. In many places the alternative to casually driving 5 miles to get groceries is to casually walk 5 miles to get groceries.

With the newer style of tract development in the last 10 years or so there may not be a convenience store (or any kind of commercial space) within miles of a residential subdivision. So if you run out of milk for your past-the-sell-by-date cereal you have to displace yourself a mile or five. And then you might as well drive to a big supermarket...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 05:07:46 AM EST
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Also true in rural areas.

I walked to my nearest store and back a few years ago. It took two and a half hours in freezing weather.

I suppose it might have been quicker if I had a horse.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 06:57:17 AM EST
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I was there in august when temps in the valley were up past 100F (40C) and walking any distance is definitely not for northern europeans fresh off the plane. My brolly got a lot of use as a sunshade.

Besides, who the hell walks when they go to buy tyres ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 06:56:52 AM EST
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Besides, who the hell walks when they go to buy tyres ?

Exactly!  You need the car with you to fix the tires!  And we have a walkable store, but I took him to the nicer one so he could pick his dinner wine to have in -- I was being NICE!  

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by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:59:33 PM EST
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Isn't the point that a set of tyres is kinda cumbersome to carry back to your car on foot?

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 30th, 2010 at 01:10:56 PM EST
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