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The trick is to convince that cohort that while they may have been wrong about some things, there is a Serious Version(TM) of the wind turbines that they were right about.
Because, being Serious People(TM) at their core their whole life long, they couldn't have been all wrong when they were Dirty Fucking Hippies. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
That is, in the list of how to be serious, Big Coal does that because it has to. It is fully committed to being Serious(TM), because if the WeSaySoInc tactics fall over, they are dead companies walking.
OTOH, no matter how much wind power companies engage in WeSaySoInc tactics ... its always suspect that they are having the Serious People(TM) on, because they can pretty much at the drop of a hat switch to being forward looking and progressive and relying on actual economic cost versus benefit as opposed to free riding economic costs to make financial costs look good.
Their loyalty to Serious People(TM) is suspect for good reason: they have a real future, and while they could well act like perfectly respectable corporate psychopaths, their long term survival does not rest on acting like perfectly respectable corporate psychopaths.
The flip side of not being all-in to a Serious People(TM) strategy is that they are in a position to play both sides of the street. And indeed, the complaints from the Dirty Fucking Hippies about "utility scale wind turbines are a conspiracy to maintain corporate power in energy markets in the face of Peak Oil" (true story ... just hunt in the eighty or so comments in my Agent Orange diary) can be useful, here: they should be answered, honestly, in the forums they occur, but also quoted when around Serious People(TM). I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
I can understand that complaint from DFH's ... but from a pro-nuke? What?
OTOH, he didn't garner many tips, so maybe it was as puzzling to other readers. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
there is a Serious Version(TM) of the wind turbines that they were right about.
yup, the central control, eternal billing, anti-independent citizen version!!
i know, i know, it's the way forward, everything else is... whatever...
be very grateful, citizen winston 48474658, for your allotted portion of our energy. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
The state cannot impose a rate above avoided cost, and as presently interpreted, that rules out a life of project rate guarantee.
Only a small change would be required to permit states to adopt competitive feed-in tariffs, which would leave tax credits or portfolio standards for pushing the scale of various sustainable renewable power sources up to cost competitive levels. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
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