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Or is it rather the way it is because people have actually liked to engage in more transnational relationships of all kinds, commerce, communications, cultural exchange, migration, educations, etc., and it turns out that having an effective political organization with the power to establish and maintain institutions facilitates transnational living?

well, it is rapidly appearing that 'having an effective political organization with the power to establish and maintain institutions' is more figment of imagination, wishful thinking and historical nostalgia than reality, except the pentagon, and even that looks a lot less effective lately.
santiago:

if people have what they need for a happy life at home ...

That seems like a pretty big "if" to me.
 and maybe it's those people happen to running things now more than others.

heh, i should have said 'happi_er_'.

santiago:

if people have what they need for a happy life at home ...

That seems like a pretty big "if" to me. Maybe there will always be some people who aren't happy with life at home, and maybe it's those people happen to running things now more than others.

with all we know these days about which essentials/baubles, intellectual or material, make people happy, (oops happier), that's why we need to do that.

were a millionth of the energy put into financial profit invested in more humanity-enhancing activities, we'd outgrow our collective, infantile need for hegemons. indeed america might have already fulfilled  the important transnational part of its destiny, and now like a dandelion head, can pass into history, knowing the seeds of its better ideas are winging everywhere the winds of technology blow.

ideas and technology outlive the empires that spawn them...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 16th, 2010 at 10:41:06 PM EST
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melo
were a millionth of the energy put into financial profit invested in more humanity-enhancing activities, we'd outgrow our collective, infantile need for hegemons.

That is the consequence of having accepted that economics is its own autonomous sphere with its own set of laws and that the whole of society must be subjected to those rules. The consequence is that the values of our society are then collapsed into one value: Return on Investment, or Equity. That single value is grossly insufficient to serve as the basis for a functioning society, though it does seem to have served very well as a pretext for the looting of that society by a parasitic elite.

Unfortunately, it seems that the host is on the verge of expiring from the effects of parasitism. What can they do when they kill the host, the society in which they developed? There is no other suitably sized victim available, especially when one considers that this is not just a problem of the USA, but of the UK and the EU as well. I don't think they are going to be able to take over China or India. This mad notion that the economy can be abstracted from the society in which it functions, if acted on for a sufficient time, will destroy the society in which operates. It may well be that most of these elites do not understand and/or do not accept the self destructive effects their actions are having.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Sep 17th, 2010 at 12:16:30 AM EST
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ARGeezer,"[...]It may well be that most of these elites do not understand and/or do not accept the self destructive effects their actions are having."

It seems to me these elites have beliefs regarding these issues. If so, then they're not likely to search out facts and exercise logic, which may account for them being oblivious to realities outside the bubble of their own personal world.

NVA, a viable option when the political process fails.

by NorthDakotaDemocrat (NorthDakotaDemocrat at gmail dot com) on Sat Sep 18th, 2010 at 01:27:07 AM EST
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