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The French government is now playing the "hysterical woman" card on Reding...

This should be fun: chauvinisme means over-enthusiastic patriotism in French, but chauvinism is most often associated with male chauvinism in English...

AFP: Sarkozy fury over EU attack on Roma round-up

An EU founder member and the home of the concept of universal human rights, France was "astonished" and furious on Tuesday when Europe's Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding condemned the clampdown in stark terms.

"This is not about stirring controversy," said an official in Sarkozy's Elysee Palace, speaking under the office's customary condition of anonymity. "Nevertheless, some statements are simply not acceptable.

France tried to play down the row, with the Elysee insisting it is time for "calm dialogue" rather than "sterile controversy" and suggesting that Reding had spoken out of place. But in Brussels, the Commission stood by her.



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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:03:26 AM EST

Roms : le Luxembourg hausse le ton après des critiques de Sarkozy

LUXEMBOURG - Le ministre luxembourgeois des Affaires étrangères Jean Asselborn a estimé mercredi que le président français s'était montré "malveillant" en conseillant à Viviane Reding d'accueillir des Roms dans son pays, le Luxembourg, suite à critiques de la commissaire contre Paris.

"Ce n'est pas Viviane Reding en tant que Luxembourgeoise qui a parlé. Elle est Luxembourgeoise d'origine, mais elle est commissaire et responsable pour le domaine de la Justice", a déclaré M. Asselborn à l'AFP.

"Elle ne parle pas pour le Luxembourg et n'a pas pris d'instruction au Luxembourg. Faire cet amalgame là de la part de Nicolas Sarkozy entre la nationalité de la commissaire et le Luxembourg est quelque chose de malveillant", a-t-il ajouté.

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Nicolas Sarkozy a suggéré mercredi à la commissaire européenne Viviane Reding, qui a critiqué les renvois de Roms par la France, d'accueillir des Roms au Luxembourg, son pays, ont déclaré des sénateurs à l'issue d'un déjeuner avec le président français.

Sur le fond des critiques exprimées mardi par Mme Reding, commissaire européenne à la Justice et aux Droits fondamentaux, "moi personnellement je suis entièrement sur la ligne qui est conduite par la Commission", a dit M. Asselborn.

La Luxembourgeoise avait menacé la France de poursuite en justice pour non respect de la législation européenne au sujet des renvois de roms roumains et bulgares. Elle avait fait un parallèle avec les déportations de la Deuxième guerre mondiale et s'était indignée que Paris lui ai dissimulé l'existence d'une circulaire ciblant spécifiquement cette communauté en France.

"La circulaire sur les Roms, qui a été retirée, (reflète) une "mentalité dangereuse", a jugé le ministre luxembourgeois, "et on ne change pas une politique en changeant une circulaire". "On doit aussi changer la mentalité et l'approche d'ensemble du gouvernement français en ce qui concerne cette matière", a-t-il renchéri.

After Sarkozy apparently said that Reding should get her country, Luxembourg, to welcome Roms, the Luxembourg minister for foreign affairs is reacting rather strongly, calling his comments "nasty" (or "malicious" maybe, not sure how to translate "malveillant")

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:57:52 AM EST
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Malevolent?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:58:43 AM EST
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So, by making this suggestion hasn't Sarkozy implicitly admitted to expelling the Roma on purpose?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:01:44 AM EST
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indeed.

Sounds like the typical "I didn't do it! They did it too" 6-year old defense.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:39:52 AM EST
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There's this quaint idea that adult behaviour is different from child behaviour...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 01:58:34 PM EST
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dict.cc dictionary :: malveillant [négatif] :: English-French translation
malveillant {adj} [négatif]
bitchy [coll.]
LOL

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:04:01 AM EST
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Perfect, really.  +1 Internets to Luxembourg.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:42:33 AM EST
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bit of a replay of the world cup then?

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:39:28 AM EST
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Isn't Asselborn calling Sarko malevolent for attacking her as a Luyxemburgian whereas she was speaking as a member of the European Commission?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 12:16:38 PM EST
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Yes, it's exactly that.
by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 01:01:06 PM EST
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chauvinism is most often associated with male chauvinism in English...

In German or Hungarian, it's primarily about a form of nationalism focusing on demeaning other nations in comparison to one's own.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 12:12:32 PM EST
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That's what chauvinisme is in French language too.
by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Sep 15th, 2010 at 01:02:31 PM EST
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