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I was too involved with the demos and various Greek writing to have a chance to describe the glory and the shame of the two days of unprecedented demos.

I will get to writing a diary soon I hope, but let me just add two things: 70.000 demonstrators is a very poor estimate regarding the number of people attending in Athens - and certainly all over Greece. I went over the map of Athens at Google Earth, measuring the surface of the streets I saw, heard and read were full, or semi-full at the time of the demo. I think that any estimate under 100.000 is not serious. Note though that this is a static estimate: at least 100.000 people at a single moment. Yet the fluxes of people from and to the metro stations and through the surrounding roads were constant and large. Given that the demo lasted a full 5 hours and then some after the violence began, it is IMHO most likely that the number of people who participated at some stage in the demo in Athens is in the hundreds of thousands. All major Greek cities at the same time saw historical records of participation on demos. There was some pollster that claimed that between 10-15% of the Greek population participated in these demos / strike / actions. A number that must be up there in the global demo participation rankings.

During the first day it I saw quite for the first time quite unradical demonstrators with Greek flags, applauding and cheering with each molotov cocktail thrown at the police guarding the Parliament by anarchists.

During the second day, the Communist Party demonstrated their traditional mindless muscle and bullying, but the anarchists or whatever were criminal: they were throwing molotov cocktails in the middle if the communist crowd as well as very large rocks.

Finally: here's Varoufakis telling it pretty much as it is.

I'll be back on this with a diary (I hope)

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Oct 21st, 2011 at 09:05:52 PM EST
From the above linked quote:
YANIS VAROUFAKIS:  What is happening at the moment is an inability of the political class and the political elite of Europe to handle and to manage a process of disintegration that began with the great - the Global Financial Crisis a few years ago. The euro system was never designed to sustain such a major earthquake and now it is collapsing. The political class is not up to the task of shoring up, of injecting cement into the foundations of the euro system. And the tragedy is that the euro, however badly-designed and ill-conceived it might have been, if it collapses in the effects few weeks, months, whenever, is going to drag down with it the whole concept of a European Union. Europe is going to turn into a postmodern 1930s of everybody hating everybody else, or the war of all against all, hopefully not a war involving tanks and machine guns, but at least a process through which the peoples of Europe, instead of finding a common home and a common interest, they indulge in a kind of Hobbesian tit-for-tat between themselves.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 21st, 2011 at 10:26:23 PM EST
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Europe is going to turn into a postmodern 1930s of everybody hating everybody else, or the war of all against all, hopefully not a war involving tanks and machine guns, but at least a process through which the peoples of Europe, instead of finding a common home and a common interest, they indulge in a kind of Hobbesian tit-for-tat between themselves.

So true...Similar SHOULD happen in USA, but they will organize some shity big war instead of those small wars that ruined Middle East (not good enough) and they will throw all of us in to the deep shit. That's the best way for everyone to forget about economy and money and to take a struggle for our plane lives.
They have NATO (totally criminal organisation) and are wrecking countries at their will. But as we Serbs say "Black Friday will come to you too" so wait for this theatre to come to your town...
Very depressing...and history will repeat as always because we do not learn...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Sat Oct 22nd, 2011 at 07:46:25 PM EST
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