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The passing of a freight train is a rattle for two minutes, but, unlike highway noise, it's then over. Is a train ever half an hour instead of every two hours crossing the limit of intolerable?

From what I heard, some of those lines have trains every 10 minutes or so. Especially during the night. With very old stock and therefore very loud noises.

The iron rhine I mentioned has a similar problem: The people want a different route and some tunnels to lessen the noise and the DB is not willing to invest the extra money.

Now what ?

by pi (etrib@opsec.eu) on Mon Nov 28th, 2011 at 09:31:06 AM EST
some of those lines

Which lines? From what I found, the line in question presently has a capacity for only 8 freight trains a day, which should rise to 24 after an upgrade, though opponents scared inhabitants with a 180 trains a day number.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Nov 28th, 2011 at 10:29:52 AM EST
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(Sorry the first reply was a bit too quick, but I was in a hurry to catch my train home)

The people want a different route and some tunnels

The tunnel demands along the Karlsruhe-Basel line quadrupling project separated in my mind from the example in the article because they are more a case of new line construction: the extra two tracks need new right-of-way. The main noise-related disputes I'm aware of are:

  1. Offenbach: here the line leaves the main station southward in a sharp curve ( => curve noise in addition to braking noise) and is surrounded by residential areas built up in the last few decades. The extra two tracks don't fit into an already narrow corridor and need the destruction of some homes and garages, and several metres high noise protection walls would separate the city.

  2. Offenbach-Riegel: on this section, plans foresee the extra tracks next to the existing tracks. Hence, locals in towns crossed by the line would like to add the extra two tracks along the parallel highway instead ("Bürgertrasse" = "Citizen's Routing"). However, locals living close to the highway support the original plans.

  3. Middle of Freiburg freight bypass: at Freiburg, the "quadruple tracking" is actually the planned addition of a new two-track bypass line far outside the city, and only for freight trains. Although it follows the noisy highway, the mayors of two villages are more worried by the new rail noise. However, this section also passes a natural reserve, so maybe both railway and runnel would belong into cut-and-cover tunnels.

  4. Bad Krozingen and Buggingen: at its south end, the Freiburg bypass leaves the highway and returns to the original rail corridor. While the town of Mengen gets a tunnel, the next two towns don't. Locals demand that the end of the freight bypass be placed in a cut-and-cover tunnel, rather than taking up agricultural land and separating it.

  5. Katzenbergtunnel: further south, there is a section where the old line curves along a narrow, steep-sides part of the Rhine valley, while the extra two, high-speed tracks will be in a 9.4 km tunnel, to be opened end of next year. Here locals demanded that all freight trains use the tunnel. They actually won such a promise, although cramming both slow freight and fast expresses into that section may prove problematic.

  6. Haltingen: in the one case where the protest is not linked to new right-of-way, the line crosses the town just before Basel, and there were demands for a cut-and-cover tunnel. This was rejected on the grounds that the already closed planning process would have to be started over, but, at least, the existing noise protection plans were boosted.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Nov 28th, 2011 at 01:32:23 PM EST
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