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I think we should thank Cameron for two things :

  1. sinking the treaty change, thus saving us the trouble

  2. taking the blame for this round of the continuing euroFAIL tragicomedy series (how are the ratings looking? Will there be a new season next year, or will the series get canned?)

The intense surge of anglohatred that I personally feel when reading headlines like PM finally gets tough with Europe: David Cameron vetoes new treaty to save the euro and hand more power to Brussels is probably untypical of the Eurotrib leadership, but perhaps not uncommon for the Eurozoner in the street. This may take some of the heat out of Germanophobia.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 05:34:32 AM EST
There was never going to be a 27-country treaty change, it was just "communications", so I'm not thanking Cameron.

I'm resigned to Britain going its Euro-sceptic way and, by opting out of everything, finally leaving the EU. If there's anything left to leave.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 05:47:33 AM EST
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The UK won't leave the EU as long as the UK's biggest landowners are getting six and seven figure annual handouts from the CAP.

Cameron can do his political boo-hiss pantomime dame act for local consumption for as long as he likes, but that's the bottom line.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 06:03:57 AM EST
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What is?

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 10:20:35 AM EST
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Common Agricultural Policy.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 10:36:37 AM EST
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The CAP seems to have provisions similar to, but perhaps more generous than, various US "land bank" schemes to subsidize agriculture or pay to keep land out of production. The US scheme has resulted in The Grand Duke of Lichtenstein being the largest recipient of US agricultural subsidies for his sugar cane farming in Louisiana. This is likely one reason so little land is available for residential use in the U.K. It generates a large stream of income for the wealthiest citizens.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 11:38:05 AM EST
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It's one reason, theres also the land registration details, which also result in a non-payment of tax.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 11:47:30 AM EST
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I think on balance Cameron's action are bad for Britain. Given the choice between a failure of the Euro and then the Pound with Britain outside, and the same failure with Britain inside, it seems to me that in the long run it would be better to be inside, so as to participate in whatever the next step of the process might be.

The question I have is whether the LibDems will be able to hang in with the coalition or if this will cause that to collapse. I was not under the impression that Clegg's party is 100% Eurosceptic. If that happens, maybe the British government will change in time to opt back into the ongoing evolution of Europe...

by asdf on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 09:41:03 AM EST
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Opting into the Euro right now strikes me as being not so unlike opting into the Warsaw Pact around 1989...

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 12:11:11 PM EST
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Lib/Dems haven't exhibited any signs of sanity so I don't expect an outbreak any time soon.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 9th, 2011 at 01:59:41 PM EST
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