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Perhaps not as clearly. I wouldn't like to go down into the street in that freak Ghaddafi's country, for example, and SA has such an archaic, traditionalist side, that both Tunisia and Egypt contrast with in terms of having developed some notions of independence, freedom, and democracy even though their republics were then captured by profiteers and dictators. It boils down to what ideals people share, soldiers included. I'm not sure what cultural influences Libyan and Saudi soldiers have been exposed to over two-three decades. Would Internet make the difference?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 11th, 2011 at 04:03:49 PM EST
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afew:
Would Internet make the difference?

don't you think mubarak is regretting allowing it now?

they allow it to start to increase revenues, (hook) then, guess what? (barb), people see out of their fishbowl!

...and realise they're not just afew ;)

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Feb 11th, 2011 at 05:55:35 PM EST
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I watched an English language version of a recruiting film for the Saudi Army while installing video projectors in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1984. At that time recruitment was directed to the sons of the poor, bedu, farmers, etc. The title was "To Be A Man!" At that time one would still see old sheiks with somewhat threadbare dress "capes" over what had been the standard dress before the then ubiquitous "thobe". There has been huge change in SA in the quarter century since then, but many of the officers and non-coms in the SA military would have had their careers start back then.

With that sort of start in life the step up represented by the military is likely to make such personnel both loyal and conservative. If they were or could be convinced that a crowd of protesters was under the influence of or composed by outside influences they would most likely shoot. If not, I would not want to venture a guess.

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Feb 11th, 2011 at 05:57:05 PM EST
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