Who is Gene Sharp? | 191 comments (191 topical, editorial, 1 hidden)

Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

in this back-and-forth is that most of us are reading European media, in a variety of languages, and wouldn't dream of taking the NYT, or any other US media, as a reference on the Middle East. We're keenly aware of the "Israel" filter through which US media view the Middle East. This is a specifically US phenomenon.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 08:16:50 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

it's more than the NYT. It's all of American and English culture and media. They really think they are superior and having something to each others, when in fact, their history and culture is short and very soaked in blood and would have much to learn if they descended off their high horse and listened to people from other cultures.

They mould history and "Western" culture according to their preferences, and I really don't like it.

The French are no better.

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 08:23:18 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

So whoever is "Western" is tarred with the same brush?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 08:55:11 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

we Westerners have to admit that is how we built our civilization and wealth.

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:00:22 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 1)

And when we do, are we allowed to have an opinion on world affairs beyond the West?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:13:05 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

my philosophy is:

do whatever you want. your choice will reflect your nature.

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:37:01 AM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 1)

That is the most phenomenally bullshit response I think I've seen on this blog. Congratulations!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:08:57 PM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (2.00 / 2)

you mean apart from what you spew?

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:32:01 PM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (4.00 / 2)

This thread has passed the "more heat than light" threshold.

Considering you consistently fail to substantiate your claims or link to sources, you might want to consider toning down a bit, too.

Keynesianism is intellectually hard, as evidenced by the inability of many trained economists to get it - Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:40:52 PM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 0)

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:50:24 PM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 1)

My comment at least contained a hint of humour.

No congratulations on your reply to it.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:42:06 PM EST
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Re: Steve, I think that part of the disconnect (none / 1)

you call that humour? here's some free advice - keep your day job. ;-)

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 12:51:16 PM EST
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The French are no better... (none / 1)

You have formulated this authoritative opinion based on extensive readings of French media coverage of the Middle East, I imagine?

I'm just trying to point out that there is a whole range of information sources between the NYT and Angry Arab. And some of them are quite good. There are, for example, a fair number of French journalists that speak Arabic; and a fair number of Arab journalists that speak French. There is, in fact, significant cultural interpenetration between France and North Africa, due to a long (and blood-soaked) colonial history. (There is also a high degree of cultural interpenetration with Israel, but it is not all-pervasive in the media).

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:29:52 AM EST
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Re: The French are no better... (none / 0)

mais oui. Je lisais Le Monde et Marianne à chacune de leurs parutions mais j'ai commencé à douter de leur appartenance à la gauche pendant les guerres d'Irak et d'Afghanistan. Et surtout que l'ancien ambassadeur d'Israel écrit régulièrement pour Marianne - pas trop biasé, non?

comment dit-on "droit d'ingérence" en anglais?

Le Nouvel Ob et Libé ne sont guère meilleurs.

voilà!

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:42:41 AM EST
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OK fair enough (4.00 / 3)

I never considered that Marianne was on the left... Le Monde ceased to be so, progressivement, over the past couple of decades. Liberation is hardly any better, and fairly lightweight on foreign policy, so barely worth reading.

I have no problem with the Israeli ambassador having a regular column in a publication -- journalisme d'opinion is great, everything is transparent.
What I object to is having his opinions relayed by a supposedly objective journalist.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:57:50 AM EST
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Re: OK fair enough (none / 0)

Marianne is supposed to reflect the Republican ideals of France - liberté, égalité, fraternité

it does a pretty good job, except with regards to Israel

by stevesim on Mon Feb 21st, 2011 at 10:49:47 AM EST
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