Continued Japanese Disaster Thread | 287 comments (286 topical, 1 editorial, 0 hidden)

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On the backup problems, a new version:

Radioactive Releases at Fukushima Could Last Months - NYTimes.com

Christopher D. Wilson, a reactor operator and later a manager at Exelon's Oyster Creek plant, near Toms River, N.J...
...The problem, he said, was that the hookup is done through electric switching equipment that is in a basement room flooded by the tsunami, he said. "Even though you have generators on site, you have to get the water out of the basement," he said.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 11:58:58 AM EST
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They built the emergency generators of a seaside plant in a floodable basement!?

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:41:28 PM EST
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and the guy with a bucket to bail it out no doubt just happens to be on holiday this week

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:45:55 PM EST
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Nb41 has a comment just up about the sheer number of buckets of water needed to cool this thing.

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:53:29 PM EST
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Who could have known?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 09:37:11 PM EST
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I once inspected an malfunctioning emergency diesel generator on an oil rig in the Persian Gulf off Abu Dhabi. The generator was located in the open, exposed to the seawater spray, including the electrical and electrics racks. Well, these were supposed to be waterproof, but they weren't (and neither condensation proof)... I had to recommend to build a shed around it to protect it...

"People only accept change when they are faced with necessity, and only recognize necessity when a crisis is upon them." - Jean Monnet

by Melanchthon on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 01:03:43 PM EST
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I've got a year's supply of idiotic-to-dangerous design horror stories.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 01:03:53 PM EST
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probably go with my year supply of idiotic user and management stories

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 01:06:55 PM EST
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That's exactly what I was referring to in this comment:

Melanchthon:

They [the generators] must be located in safe places and well protected, and that includes the diesel fuel storage tanks and supply lines, the air intake system, the electric and/or compressed air starting devices, the batteries, the engine cooling system as well as the electric and electronic devices that are supposed to automatically start them and connect them to the pumps whenever there is a power shortage and to pilot them. So if they were flooded, there was no chance they could run for long.

"People only accept change when they are faced with necessity, and only recognize necessity when a crisis is upon them." - Jean Monnet

by Melanchthon on Mon Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:51:48 PM EST
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