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Lowering Deaths per Terawatt Hour for Civilization
Energy SourceDeath Rate (deaths per TWh)
Coal - China278
Coal - world average161 (26% of world energy, 50% of electricity)
Oil36 (36% of world energy)
Coal - USA15
Biofuel/Biomass12
Peat12
Natural Gas4 (21% of world energy)
Hydro - world including Banqiao)1.4 (about 2500 TWh/yr and 171,000 Banqiao dead)
Solar (rooftop)0.44 (less than 0.1% of world energy)
Wind0.15 (less than 1% of world energy)
Hydro0.10 (europe death rate, 2.2% of world energy)
Nuclear0.04 (5.9% of world energy)
(reordered)

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 11:43:29 AM EST
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I wonder what number of Chernobyl dead they used in that calculation, though.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 12:46:33 PM EST
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ceebs tells me it appears they assumed 100 deaths for the nuclear industry. That means they're working on 2500 TWh.

If you divide by your favourite estimate of Chernobyl deaths, what's the result?

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:10:16 PM EST
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well calculating it out  its actually 102 point something, but I assumed the extra bit was a rounding error.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:20:12 PM EST
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But you did get 2500 TWh for nuclearpower production to date?

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:21:33 PM EST
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Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
More than fifty deaths are directly attributed to the accident, all among the reactor staff and emergency workers. Estimates of the total number of deaths attributable to the accident vary enormously, from possibly 4,000 to close to a million.
Let's assume that the estimate excludes Chernobyl entirely. Then, you get

Chernobyl Deaths     Total nuclear power deaths per TWh
50		     0.06
4000		     1.6
300000		     120
1000000 	     400


So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:20:31 PM EST
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I see I forgot to reply to this: at the end of my onetime diary Chernobyl's Downplayed Victims, numbers range from 60,000 to 212,000.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 18th, 2011 at 05:01:03 PM EST
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The source seems to be Wind Energy Comes of Age, a book by Paul Gipe from 1995 that was updated in 2000. It's not clear what is or isn't in it, and dated (for all energy forms).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:20:37 PM EST
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for coal.

And not for nuclear.
(because it doesn't exist of course. Statistics are studiously not collected.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 07:56:51 PM EST
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Tracking back the author's sources, I get to this, and this:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:07:45 PM EST
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It's possible the 100 deaths are for "normal operations", considering Chernobyl "an outlier".

After all, look at how they treat the Banqiao Dam accident separately.

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 01:13:31 PM EST
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