Another Japan News Thread | 310 comments (310 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Whether or not my outburst last night worked, now Army choppers dropped over 21 tons of water on No. 3. The riot squad is preparing to spray water now, at 11 am Tokyo time.

I will become a patissier, God willing.

by tuasfait on Wed Mar 16th, 2011 at 09:37:18 PM EST

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2 drops on 3, 1 on 4, and it looks like at least one load missed entirely

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Mar 16th, 2011 at 09:48:14 PM EST
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no watching the replay, the reporters recon three, but im sure it's 4, one that they think is a replay, is a second run. Only one appeared to hit one of the targets effectively.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Mar 16th, 2011 at 09:52:02 PM EST
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They said on TV that lead plates were installed under the pilots first.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 02:44:31 AM EST
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I heard the metal was something else. Also, Defense Minister ordered the brass to drop water, telling "Make up your mind" this time. JSDF panicked and did the job.

I don't believe the myth that the military represents prowess or bravery.

I will become a patissier, God willing.

by tuasfait on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 03:00:51 AM EST
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I'm reading that the crew got a dose of 60 mSv.

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 09:47:31 AM EST
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Apparently you need 250mSv to experience radiation sickness.

Sievert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

0.25 - 1 Sv (250 - 1000 mSv): Some people feel nausea and loss of appetite; bone marrow, lymph nodes, spleen damaged.

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 09:52:05 AM EST
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Less is enough to increase the probability of cancer. At any rate, the current limit set by the Japanese government for emergency workers is the lower limit of radiation sickness, 250 mSv.

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 09:56:35 AM EST
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Sievert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Criterion for relocation after Chernobyl disaster: 350 mSv/lifetime

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 10:00:32 AM EST
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Sievert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US limit for volunteers averting major nuclear escalation: 500 mSv^[6]
US limit for volunteers rescuing lives or preventing serious injuries: 1000 mSv^[6]

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 10:03:06 AM EST
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In an earlier thread, I referred to the relevant international agreement. Its currently valid limits date from 1990, the US limits are set by those, Japan's limits are lower, and were still lower until days ago (100 mSv for emergency workers).

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 10:14:23 AM EST
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Sievert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lowest clearly carcinogenic level (i.e. lowest level where the cancer rate can be clearly shown to differ from normal): 100 mSv/year

It's also the case that the same dose over a shorter period of time is more carcinogenic.

So, in what may be my last act of "advising", I'll advise you to cut the jargon. -- My old PhD advisor, to me, 26/2/11

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 10:04:31 AM EST
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