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Jesus, is anyone not involved in this?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Mar 19th, 2011 at 05:02:52 PM EST
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Sweden has yet to pile in so as to be able to advertise the Gripen.

(Available, in quantity, at the nearest military hardware show near you.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Mar 19th, 2011 at 05:10:50 PM EST
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AND, while you're there, check out the DaffyMobile®.  Soon with designer colored matching umbrellas!)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Mar 19th, 2011 at 05:12:00 PM EST
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Although the DaffyMobile(R) is probably built by Germany or Russia, so just make sure it comes with a good warranty. ;)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Mar 19th, 2011 at 05:31:25 PM EST
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The Swedish government has actually been very dishonorably passive. First they said that we certainly needed a NFZ and much more, but that sadly there was no UN mandate. When the strong mandate came around they panicked and claimed that this had nothing to do with the EU but was exclusively a NATO operation and "should we really spend Swedish tax money on this?"(!). They were them blasted along the lines of "why the hell do we then have expensive stuff like EU Battlegroups and the associated quick response Expeditionary Air Wing (8 Gripen with assorted support units)? If they weren't created for a situation like this, why then do we have them? Why have created them while we have completely eliminated any semblance of national defence? Then it was claimed that we lack interoperability with NATO, which was shot down by military experts who noted that the Swedish Airforce is more NATO-adapted than most NATO Airforces. Then you had all the Gulf Arab support and the NATO argument collapsed entirely. So now we have the rather unusual situation that the left demands we send fighter bombers and flatten Kadaffi while the right looks extremely spineless.

I'm quite ashamed actually, and have lost any trust I might have hade in the foreign policy acumen of PM Reinfeldt and FM Bildt. Quite frankly, I'm pissed off.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sun Mar 20th, 2011 at 08:58:45 AM EST
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Further, we look even more like giant pussies now that Denmark and Norway said they thet would "of course" send fighter jets.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sun Mar 20th, 2011 at 09:04:52 AM EST
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this is the first chance the eurozone has had to try a  Real (tm) wargame with integrated national resources in our own backyard, rather than way over there somewhere else

almost too good to be true, probably low casualties since for a change they're on the side of the people...this was such a sudden and transparently expedient switch, no one can be fooled into thinking they can't talk out of both sides of their mouths.

they might really throw flowers this time!

seriously, what's going to cool the powerplays and tribal factionalism after kaddaffi's gone?

halliburton and private security?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Mar 20th, 2011 at 06:29:12 AM EST
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it's pretty multilateral. germany's decision to pass seems much less controversial than france's in the iraq build up.

i get it, america can't use drones because europe doesn't have them, so it will be obvious they're spearheading this little um, skirmish.

replay the falklands with more bells on?

let's hope not, and the stated humanitarian claims are more authentic than saving the iraquis from their brutal dictator.

it's a gamble, going in militarily, will the gambler know when to stop?

or will the temptation to prop them up until they all get purple thumbs and such be too seductive?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Mar 20th, 2011 at 06:41:58 AM EST
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