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I do not know whether these are paid online propagandists or those who have been suckered by paid propagandists, but this is the company line via dKos:
if you want to live in a modern society then you will have to accept that we will have to do some sort of pollution to get energy.. and when it's all added up it will be a lot of pollution

coal, gas, oil and other fossil fuels are easy to figure out how they pollute.

nuclear - radioactive materials have to be stores somewhere for a few thousand years.

hydro - cannot be placed just anywhere.

solar - require the creation of solar cells that require alot of energy and pollution to create. they can also be broken easily in bad weather. On top of all of it they require batteries that are full of toxic chemicals. Requires huge tracks of land and dozens or hundreds of units to provide for a community, likely taking away from farmland or animal habitat

wind - the wind doesn't always blow. also requires huge tracks of land and dozens if not hundreds of units to provide for a community, likely taking away from farmland or animal habitat

so take your pick. if you like your modern lifestyle then stop whining about hurting the environment. if you don't care about living modern you can get a log cabin in the woods and hide from the world.



I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Mar 19th, 2011 at 04:55:31 PM EST
Dumb and written in poor English. But these are indeed rightwing talking points, and we will hear more of them - I predict, more and more tea-baggish. There's a very basic Invading Enemy frame there in which Greens/DFHs want to fuck up my lifestyle, and it will be from my cold, dead hand etc (we know the music). Add to it that we are still in a period of prolonged backlash from the DFH days that so deeply questioned traditional mores.

In this exchange, Migeru asked what was wrong with rightwingers, that they had to deny everything. My response was because it works. A significant constituency, especially in America but not only, is just begging to go into major denial and be fed an enemy as an excuse. Of course, behind this, there are incumbent industries that want to hold on to comfortable revenue streams as long as they can (the next thirty years would be cool), and are funding the propagandists that roll out the talking points we see repeated here.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 20th, 2011 at 04:22:24 AM EST
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