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Rush to Renewable Energy Generates 'Enormous' Financial Questions in Europe

LONDON -- The spectacular growth in recent years in the number and size of renewable energy sources across the European Union -- particularly wind and solar power -- driven by high subsidies and government rhetoric on climate change has left the national electricity grids scrambling to cope.

"Basically, governments have allowed the buildup of wind without thinking through the grid consequences," Oxford University economist Dieter Helm told ClimateWire. "There are two responses: Stop wasting so much on the rapid development of wind and its questionable economics, or plough on regardless, in which case enormous grid investments are urgently needed."

Estimated costs of strengthening, upgrading and smartening the grids are put at up to €100 billion ($138 billion) over the next decade alone at a time when budgets remain extremely tight and as governments either impose or contemplate cutting their generous subsidy schemes.

As usual, solar and wind are mixed, subsidy regimes and grid issues are conflated, and costs over many years are thrown in without any perspective on what these numbers mean and how they compare to what would be done without renewables. But hey, it's in the NYT, so it must be true.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 2nd, 2011 at 11:35:15 AM EST
The NYT is beyond reproach.  Why do you hate freedom?

Also, for all the Brits on ET, when are you people going to stop Oxford from doing economics?  Oxford does economics like Billy Joel drives.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Mar 2nd, 2011 at 12:10:50 PM EST
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From the train to Bremen:

Perhaps we could write an ET Op-Ed? No reason there isn't room for some actual true experience regarding renewables in Yurp.

PS. on the way to Varel i saw fields of very old, small Enercons enjoying the fresh spring winds, long after they've paid for themselves. Still producing electricity of course.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Mar 2nd, 2011 at 12:38:40 PM EST
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Dieter Helms and the usual talking points:

Interview: Dieter Helm : article : Nature Reports Climate Change

What we have learnt is that politicians tend to choose the most expensive options first. Faced with climate change, what's our solution? In Europe, it's to devote most of our energies to a rapid build-out of wind power. This is the sort of thing that makes nuclear power look cheap.

And the real enemy is coal and wind is wimpy against it and it's time to grow up and nuclear is the only way. Oh, and CCS.

Professor of Energy Policy at Oxford. Probably pulls in some nice sponsorship for the poor, struggling place.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Mar 2nd, 2011 at 04:47:34 PM EST
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It is beyond the pale, I suppose, to explain to the "Professor" the difference between "affording" an investment that will pay for itself and an "investment" in saving big banks.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Mar 17th, 2011 at 11:18:54 PM EST
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