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WHO | Radon and cancer

  • Radon is the second most important cause of lung cancer in many countries.
  • Radon is estimated to cause between 3% and 14% of all lung cancers, depending on the average radon level in a country.
  • Radon is much more likely to cause lung cancer in people who smoke, and is the primary cause of lung cancer among non-smokers.

...Significant health effects have been seen in uranium miners who are exposed to high levels of radon. However, studies in Europe, North America and China have confirmed that lower concentrations of radon - such as those found in homes - also confer health risks and contribute substantially to the occurrence of lung cancers worldwide [1, 2, 3].

The risk of lung cancer increases by 16% per 100 Bq/m3 increase in radon concentration. The dose-response relation is linear - i.e. the risk of lung cancer increases proportionally with increasing radon exposure. Radon is much more likely to cause lung cancer in people who smoke.

I was made aware of the radon danger as a freshman physics student. Our professor told about an especially bad cluster west of Budapest: a coal mining town, where (1) natural radon emissions from the ground are high due to minerals with high radionuclide concentration, (2) homes were built in the sixties without proper ventilation, (3) buring locally mined (high radionuclide concentration) coal produces slag with even higher radioactivity (the fire leaves behind and thus concentrates heavy metals) which legally up to 1960 and illegally until much later was used as building material, (4) the building material produces more radon gas as breakdown product (radon-222 is the alpha decay product of radium-226).

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 04:46:28 AM EST
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Where does the radon go?  It's a dense gas, and it leaks out whether there is a house there or not, so how does ventilating help?
by njh on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 05:59:31 AM EST
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I'm not sure I understand the question. By dense, do you mean high atomic mass or high concentration in da house? By leaking out, do you mean from the ground or from the closed room?

On the longer run, BTW, the problem is not radon itself with its short half-life but its (not inert gas) breakdown products, which stick to dust particles (and cigarette smoke, hence the enhanced cancer rate in combination IIRC).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 06:16:06 AM EST
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by dense I mean it weighs a lot per unit volume, and hence tends to sink.

by leaking out, I mean from the ground.

my point is really that the concentration of radon should be roughly uniform inside and outside, because it is being provided and decayed at the same rate.

I didn't realise the connection to cigarettes.

by njh on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 06:41:45 AM EST
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The volume of air per square meter of ground depends on how high your ceiling is. As ceilings go, the troposphere/stratosphere boundary is pretty high.

And as far as the higher density goes, it does increase the ground-level partial pressure (and thus the concentration per cubic meter) in equilibrium. But the troposphere is not in equilibrium - there is rather significant convection.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 06:57:06 AM EST
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by dense I mean it weighs a lot per unit volume, and hence tends to sink.

Ading to JakeS: you do mean atomic weight in the end (radon mass per unit volume at a given air pressure depends on concentration). But it is actually true that radon can concentrate in 'poodles' due to stratification of still air (in a basement or mine).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 07:46:25 AM EST
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"radon can concentrate in 'poodles'"


A victim, yesterday.

by LondonAnalytics (Andrew Smith) on Thu Mar 31st, 2011 at 09:40:05 AM EST
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I don't know what other definition of density there is apart from molecular weight, for gases.  I think you are confusing with concentration.

I'll leave the poodles for LondonAnalytics.

by njh on Fri Apr 1st, 2011 at 06:30:56 PM EST
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Radon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Its most stable isotope, 222Rn, has a half-life of 3.8 days.
Which means that ventilation mixes it with the broader atmosphere and reduces the exposure from being near granite.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 1st, 2011 at 05:53:55 AM EST
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