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The need for new on-shore grid construction is now a top issue in the post-nuclear-closures debate in Germany, with strange alignments. While representatives of the governing parties seem to think that Greens can be split over the issue, some Greens made the argument that what's needed for wind is not really highest-capacity high-voltage cables but more medium-capacity cables, which can be laid underground. I'm not sure that that's enough (we will need balancing on an Europe-wide scale, and high-capacity cables are more efficient), but there was Green capaigning for such grid development long before Fukushima.

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by DoDo on Wed Apr 13th, 2011 at 06:04:02 PM EST
If your wind is fairly distributed, then consumption tends to be local, and you just need a distribution network, no need to reinforce the transport network.

If you've got 1000 5MW windmills way out in the desert (or North Sea), you need a big thick transport network like you do for a nuclear power station.

Why this should lead to splits among Greens, when it's an engineering issue, I have no idea.

If it's a matter of industrial & tariff policy favouring concentrated or distributed wind, then transport is only one factor.

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by eurogreen on Thu Apr 14th, 2011 at 09:59:15 AM EST
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If your wind is fairly distributed, then consumption tends to be local

It's local during normal wind, but not on the rare occasions when one region has practically no wind and another has strong wind. Then it would be best if you can transport multiple gigawatts across distances of thousands of kilometres.

If you've got 1000 5MW windmills way out in the desert (or North Sea), you need a big thick transport network like you do for a nuclear power station.

Actually, no. For that purpose alone, you only need it from the wind farm to inhabited land, where it can be distributed.

Why this should lead to splits among Greens, when it's an engineering issue

Because local opposition to high-voltage power line projects and Greens aren't disjunct groups. No, it's not just an engineering issue.

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by DoDo on Thu Apr 14th, 2011 at 10:26:50 AM EST
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