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"None of which is an obvious problem if we weren't grossly wasteful."

Er... really? 3 billion cars? 6 billion flight vacations? I can't see that being manageable. You may try to avoid being wasteful but a plane needs to lift close to a ton per passenger, 10kms high. That alone is a huge energy consumption -and it won't ever be solar...

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue May 17th, 2011 at 06:24:05 AM EST
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Individual cars are wasteful. Why don't we have shared ones and good public transport?  

You don't need to fly for your vacations, in the main. You just need a good train service. (I might need to fly - it may never make economic sense to run a train from the UK to Dublin, but that's another matter.) Not flying wouldn't affect the quality of life.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue May 17th, 2011 at 06:26:24 AM EST
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With good boat and train services it would probably be feasible to go about anywhere in the world but Australia in a dozen days, meaning that with labor time reduction allowing long vacations long range travel would still be thinkable...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue May 17th, 2011 at 04:40:18 PM EST
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That too.

The point is that the details may need to change, but that doesn't really change the standard of living.

We don't need to kill air travel completely, just stop using it for pointless short-haul and overland stuff.

Anyway, I haven't flown anywhere in two years or so.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed May 18th, 2011 at 03:35:58 AM EST
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