Posters on dKos regularly seem surprised that conservatives do two things:

1. Reduce arguments to trite dog-whistle talking points - such as flip-flopper, tax-and-spend, "soft on defence", and so on.

2. Lie. Repeatedly, in public, with no moral consistency in their talking points.

If you accept that the purpose of politics is power, not integrity, neither of these becomes shocking.

This should have been noted by the Yes2AV campaign as well. It doesn't bode well for any future EU referendum.

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