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The IMF are providing a separate loan to Ireland (at a lower interest rate) and would have needed ECB agreement to any haircut plan.  Whether the ECB would have agreed to that under any circumstances became moot once Geithner vetoed the IMF proposal.

The idea that Kelly carries any water whatsoever for the ECB is just plain ridiculous, given the only water he wants to give the ECB is ownership of the Irish banks in return for the 150 Billion the banks owe the ECB.

Some water carrying.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 12:31:08 PM EST
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"Whether the ECB would have agreed to that under any circumstances became moot once Geithner vetoed the IMF proposal."

But we only have one unsubstantiated and denied allegation that Geithner vetoed anything. And that allegation is surrounded by checkable inaccuracies.

Whether Kelly is telling the truth, making it up, or carrying someone else's excuse is impossible to tell. What's easy to tell is who benefits: the Germans, the UK and the Irish government all of whom have a convenient scapegoat.

Obama blocked IMF deal to haircut Irish debt. Boycott Obama's speech in O'Connell St - pass the word around

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=8075

And this at a time when the US and Germany are actually in a known dispute

On a more fundamental level, however, Washington is concerned that, should Europe overreach in its rush to cut government spending, it could endanger the fragile economic recovery that has taken hold on the Continent and around the globe. In particular, the US would like to see countries like Germany and France continue efforts to stimulate their economies.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,697132,00.html

And the US policy has been, for a while to oppose Euro austerity

"In a letter to G20 leaders last week, US President Barack Obama warned against cutting national debts too quickly, arguing it would put economic recovery at risk"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10411167

So the claim is that in contrast to clear US policy, the US treasury department is forcing massive austerity on Ireland and backing up the bond hawks. I guess it is possible, but to me it seems more likely to be disinformation designed to focus popular discontent on an easy target.

by rootless2 on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 12:59:06 PM EST
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  1. Geithner is not an important part of this story from a European perspective.  Everyone knows the ECB is opposed to all haircuts.  No one here is blaming Geithner for this. At most he undercut IMF efforts to negotiate a slightly more enlightened policy.

  2. I have already argued above that I see the US and the Obama administration as a potential ally against excessive German/ECB inspired austerity policies.

  3. You seem to be trying to overlay a US left/right debate around Geithner on a European discussion of Austerity policies, German ECB obsession with protecting Bondholders, and structural deficiencies in the design of the ECB and Eurozone.

  4. Please stop buttressing your argument with websites I have never heard of making points no one here has ever made. Your argument is with other people!


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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 01:18:40 PM EST
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"No one here is blaming Geithner for this"

Kelly certainly is. And the websites show that he is not the only one in Ireland.

by rootless2 on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 01:28:51 PM EST
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The fact is, ARGeezer did bring up Yves Smith's angle on the Morgan Kelly piece. Where in your excerpting you ignored the G7/IMF conference call episode, Yves Smith focuses on that. There's also the "Geithner and DSK" diary.

Economics is politics by other means
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 10th, 2011 at 01:39:17 PM EST
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