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The problem is that many people still cling on to the euro zone myth.

The more time we spend tied within this monstrosity the more possibility there is for very dangerous animosity to kick in. If we start dismantling this now, it will be bad, there will be pain, but it will be sustainable.

If we cling on until a massive problem occurs, then we will see a disorderly dismantling of the beast. By disorderly, I mean bullets and war.

What people fail to understand is that being anti-euro is being pro-european: if this experience continues for much longer, we will see a repeat of the 20th century. If this starts to be dismantled now, there will be some animosity, but probably nothing serious.

Sometimes the only realistic solutions are all variations of bad. Clinging to the expectation of a good outcome (and insisting on it) will just bring about the most terrifying outcome.

by cagatacos on Fri Jun 17th, 2011 at 07:18:17 AM EST
wow, this thread is really unsettling...

is germany's bluff being called? is the swelling street a foretaste of what politicians (running through underground tunnels to escape populist wrath) fear and respect as boundaries to their unfettered concupiscence?

it's obvious their ideology has no brake other than the sight of their own countrymrn getting abused by lornordure, so once stood up to in this way, can they understand that they have gone too far?

the politicians are the increasingly thin skin of the beast, as the sockpuppets fold under the public pressure, whom else do the real criminals have to hide behind?

corrupt ersatz governments can rise and fall like houses of cards, but the people know eventually they're being flim-flammed, and are engaging their frustration, organising their rage.

watching a talking head on rai news the other day interviewing 2 youth leaders behind the recent upset votes in italy, one who protested the nuke issue, the other the water privatisation... stunning the lack of comprehension on the anchor's part, the patronising, ignorant questions, and on the other side, the cool, sober attitude of the youngsters, one even quietly merry, the other controlled, but with a maturity of focus that was extremely heartening to behold.

i start to wonder, reading this diary, feeling my naive hopes for the federation of yurp embodying the best of the planet's ideals foundering, whether i need to stop being attached to the european union working.

at the end of the day it may be too big a mouthful to chew at our present state of evolution, and what's emerging for me is that it actually matters less than good regional government.

brussels is light years away... if the european economy is built on sand, then no amount of rosy, noble visions will justify the union.

soooo.... either the young people all over europe decide that they want an united europe badly enough to gum up the works to the point the politicians crumble and make way for new blood, (and i have a strong hunch this is the only thing that could save the union, and my bet is it will happen), or the scabby sharks that are shredding the social fabric win and run the whole shebang into the ground, game over, fail.

the senile oiligarchy that conditions world events hates anything they cannot financialise and control through credit games, yet the hope for innovation with regard to changing the economic topography of europe lies outside their grid, it lies in the youth who don't believe their continent has to be mismanaged in this pitiful way, and are willing to throw themselves onto the cogs of a machine that is out of control.

the internetz help link protest- (ers) but they do not incentivise it/them per se, that sentiment has to be born in the heart of each individual due to his/her singular experience.

the greater the numbers, the gentler the revolution. whereas before i thought the weakness of the protesters was their lack of coherent policies, but now i think differently.

energy is the unifying field that links all human activity. its hijacking by plutocrats afraid of change is ever more revealingly retrogressive. no other policy coherence needed, really, just stop what we're doing and organise a fairer system, that respected human rights, and the environment, and that wouldn't need the nightly news ritual disembowelment of a country's best asset, its youth, getting the shit pummeled out of it by paid government thugs.

change the way we create energy, that will change everything else...

and alas that means taking on the economics establishment and helping to establish a new narrative.

hence ET!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jun 17th, 2011 at 09:55:39 AM EST
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watching a talking head on rai news the other day interviewing 2 youth leaders behind the recent upset votes in italy, one who protested the nuke issue, the other the water privatisation... stunning the lack of comprehension on the anchor's part, the patronising, ignorant questions, and on the other side, the cool, sober attitude of the youngsters, one even quietly merry, the other controlled, but with a maturity of focus that was extremely heartening to behold.

I have a similar experience to report over here. The spokespeople for our "geração à rasca" (generation in trouble - more or less) where exactly as you described. One reason for hope.

Also, the local transition town movement seems active, with some critical mass and, again smart, level-headed and informed.

The future is not dying ideologies (social-democracy included), a LTE-mill or something like that. The future will be something new being invented right now by these people.

Real reasons for hope.

by cagatacos on Sat Jun 18th, 2011 at 03:38:47 AM EST
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