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Perhaps China and the US can exchange expertise.  A safe, dedicated Passenger Rail line is likely to be cheaper over many years than piecemeal improvements on existing rail lines.  On the other hand, the new Chinese Passenger Rail lines provide additional track space for freight trains.  The freight trains in China are not up to North American standards, perhaps there will be work for BNSF and Union Pacific bridge and track engineers in China.

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by SHKarlson (shkarlson at frontier dot com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 01:12:55 PM EST
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The US could also share expertise in building escalators at the stations.
A teenage boy has been killed and dozens of people were injured when they were thrown off an escalator that suddenly changed direction in a busy Beijing subway station.
Has anyone heard of anything like that happening anywhere before?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 04:16:42 PM EST
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Yeah, every couple of years one tries to eat people, I think.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 04:19:16 PM EST
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people die of everything, picking out one example of a death somewhere in the world and from that infering that that country cant make item x is sketchy at best. On the average year 200 people in the UK die from their interaction with stairs. perhaps we aught to swap for escalators?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 04:23:41 PM EST
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It happened last week, so I wasn't just cherry-picking an example. But a bit of research turns up that there might be a specific reason for it to have happened in China. According to a Shanghai paper
Subway Station Escalators Speed Up, Disorderly Passengers Cause Frequent Accidents

Inside sources revealed that certain stations on the new "Three Lines and Two Extensions" opened at the end of last year raised the speed of their escalators within the allowed limits to 0.65 meters per second, 0.15 meters per second faster than standard escalators. Subway passengers should be orderly in boarding the escalator to avoid accidents when riding the different speeds of escalators that now exist at different stations.

I've no idea whether this is the station that had the accident and the reference to speed reminded me of the fast escalators in St. Petersburg (it turns out that there was a much worst accident on a Moscow escalator in 1982, but I've no idea if speed was a factor).
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 04:44:08 PM EST
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The problem in the US is more keeping the escalators running ~ stopped escalators are, I believe, little more dangerous than stairs, but are not as effective as operational ones in moving people into and out of the station.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 05:34:47 PM EST
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Over many years, beyond the threshold distance for a Rapid Rail system, and above the threshold passenger-km ridership to justify an Express HSR line, a dedicate passenger line is cheaper, and the threshold passenger-km ridership to justify an Express HSR line, a Rapid Rail incremental upgrade is cheaper if there is space available within the existing right of way.

Looking for "which is the cheaper" sui generis is posing a question that is flawed from the outset. One size fits all solutions never fit all, and are always a poor fit for many.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 05:38:56 PM EST
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"and the threshold passenger-km ridership"

... and within the distance threshold for Rapid Rail and under the threshold passenger-km ridership ...

... what should have been copy and pastes were unintentionally cut and pastes.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jul 7th, 2011 at 09:20:47 PM EST
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