French technocracy sez: evil wind | 35 comments (35 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: French technocracy sez: evil wind (4.00 / 2)

I hope you will inform M. Mestrallet that he is an idiot.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 10:23:20 AM EST

Re: French technocracy sez: evil wind (none / 0)

Should such demonstrated idiocy not disqualify GDF Suez from tendering for major wind projects? After all you want your contractor to be committed to the success and maximum utilisation of your project...not to mention a positive PR approach to what you want the project to achieve.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 10:57:24 AM EST
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Well, (4.00 / 5)

France (and companies like EDF or GDF) are still at the greenwashing stage of wind development. France does it because of EU rules, and EDF and GDF do it because they are forced to.

Geramny's utilities were at that stage 3-5 years ago, but are moving on and decent parts of their organisations now actually believe in wind, in particular offshore wind, because (i) that's where a lot of their investment money is going right now (and managers love to have big budget to manage) and (ii) early projects are now online and are demonstrating their value to them in their portfolio.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 11:07:21 AM EST
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Nevertheless (none / 0)

Were I the Minister or senior civil servant charged with progressing France's wind energy development, I would be reminding Gérard Mestrallet that he can't expect to be bashing and benefiting from wind development projects at the same time...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 11:17:20 AM EST
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Re: Nevertheless (4.00 / 3)

Fat chance: the ministers and senior civil servants all share his prejudices. It's just that nowadays you have to project an image of environmentally concerned and show of a couple of wind farms and maybe a few solar panels to appease the public. That would be the entire point of the so-called Grenelle: a major show-off for the UMP government and greenwashing exercise.

But everybody in Serious circles know these are just a few toys to dangle in front of an ill-advised public, for the Serious People know that wind and solar are Un-serious and will revert us to the ages of candle lighting: only nuclear and gas (and oil) merit Serious consideration.

by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 04:30:11 PM EST
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Re: Well, (4.00 / 2)

So French utilities have reached the "then they fight you" stage on the Gandhi scale.

Just a matter of time now.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 11:36:08 AM EST
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Re: Well, (4.00 / 4)

It's always interesting to see big Serious utilities going to the mandatory motions of investing into or putting together a renewables subsidiary, while belittling the very same renewable energies in their official discourses. Of course, in these subsidiaries not everyone got the memo from the mothership and just go ahead and do it...

by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Jun 8th, 2011 at 04:34:36 PM EST
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French technocracy sez: evil wind | 35 comments (35 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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