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What kind of mental illnesses have you seen signs of? Were there any who went on an amok run?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 07:44:48 AM EST
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That's a good point. Mass murdering psychopaths make up a tiny percentage of the mentally ill. Most mentally ill people aren't much of a danger to anyone - even themselves.

I - quite seriously - believe that established psychopaths in positions of power are far more dangerous than shooting spree crazies.

Unfortunately only the latter create outraged and horrified headlines. The former are considered serious and leaderly.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 08:46:13 AM EST
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"I - quite seriously - believe that established psychopaths in positions of power are far more dangerous than shooting spree crazies."

(Sorry, don't know how to do the quote thing yet, and about to go to bed)

I totally have to agree. As a prosecutor, it made me CRAZY that someone who robbed a convenience store with a gun could end up in prison for life (one or two victims, most likely, in person) whereas a person who cheats THOUSANDS, MILLIONS, out of their pensions, retirements, whatever, goes to a federal country club prison for a few years.

I know this doesn't directly address the quotation, but it's in the same vein.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 03:59:14 PM EST
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Quotes are [blockquote]Quoted text here[/blockquote], with the sharp brackets replaced by "<" and ">".

Oh, and the inverse relationship between the seriousness of the crime and the seriousness of the punishment goes even further: Add a few zeros to Madoff's scam and he would have been a pillar of society who needed a bailout.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 06:05:26 PM EST
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Of course not.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 09:33:32 AM EST
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So you don't have experience to tell whether the madness is visible in this killer's eyes, then.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 02:19:00 PM EST
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I do not. As I said I am not a professional and this I have heard from a professional who had about 20 years of experience at the time...
Yesterday on TV there was a Norwegian psychologist telling us that this man is a RARE kind of a mentally sick man that managed to hide his sickness.
You know the saying: Eyes are windows of a soul...Some people are able to lurk trough these windows...I try...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 09:29:16 PM EST
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I find the "Eyes are the windows of the soul" idea  ludicrous. and the idea that he is the rare type of mentally sick person who can hide their sickness almost insulting in its lack of thought.

The major problem that people with mental illnesses face (Apart from the illnesses themselves) is that they are not instantly visible on the outside. people who dont have them are constantly faced by people saying "But theres nothing wrong with you".

Would that there was a simple thing visible on the inside of the eyes, but no it's rubbish.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 25th, 2011 at 10:01:25 PM EST
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It's your right to believe and think what you want...
Regardless of mentally ill people I do believe and think that with perfectly healthy people their eyes can tell a lot about their character etc. Face and expressions are also revealing...
Maybe one have to live long enough and to be interested in people to realise that eyes are "windows of the soul". When one looks at his own photos when young it is usually easy to recognise "innocence" comparing with photos later in life. Our face is not blank page...People made science out of this issue...apart from medicine, criminology those results are used very widely...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 12:24:22 AM EST
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vbo:
People made science out of this issue...apart from medicine, criminology those results are used very widely...

If you're claiming your view is science-based, you should at least give some references.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 01:17:45 AM EST
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I believe this discussion has gone wrong way and I'll stop here. It is not even relevant in this case.
Whoever is interested can investigate more by searching internet or talk to professionals.


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 01:40:03 AM EST
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its no more correct than Phrenology

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 26th, 2011 at 01:38:54 PM EST
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