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Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim in Oslo says the shooter had also been spotted in the capital prior to the explosions.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:11:23 PM EST
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@fmanjoo @techsoc @jeffjarvis Police says they do NOT believe it is international terrorism; but local aimed at political establ. Source NTB

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@techsoc police says they "know" the "grouping"/subculture/clique (=miljø) he belongs to.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:21:35 PM EST
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Beginning to look like a 'home-grown' operation.  Maybe a lone nut.  Maybe had some help.

With the guy in custody it now becomes a straight-forward police investigation.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:25:20 PM EST
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police says they "know" the "grouping"/subculture/clique (=miljø) he belongs to.

Translation: We would like to round up his drinking buddies as well, but can't prove they actually did anything illegal.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:25:37 PM EST
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H'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Don't know anything of Norwegian Criminal Law.  In the US his miljø would be investigated and, if the man had been talking about his plan to the others, they could be prosecuted as Accessories Before the Fact and depending on the evidence Co-Conspirators.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:31:37 PM EST
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Point taken. Make that "can't prove they actually did anything illegal. Yet."

Still, talking about the plan is not in and of itself sufficient in the eyes of Scandinavian law - the people he talked with about it would have to believe that he was serious about it. If they did not believe that he was serious about it and they reported it, they would be breaking the law by making frivolous reports of criminal activity.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:35:27 PM EST
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No argument from me.

A quick scan of my posts on ET will reveal I've made over-the-top remarks so I wouldn't want to get into a position where every statement is automatically assumed to be evidence of intent to commit terrorism/murder.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:47:33 PM EST
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Death toll now seventeen: seven in Oslo, nine or ten on the island.

CTV Calgary- Oslo police link camp shooting suspect to bombing - CTV News

Oslo police say they suspect the man arrested in a deadly shooting at a youth camp that killed at least nine people is also linked to the bombing that rocked the Norwegian capital earlier Friday, killing seven.

Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim won't give any details about the man, who was dressed in a police uniform when he opened fire Friday on Utoya, an island just outside the capital, where the youth wing of the ruling Labor Party was holding an event for hundreds of youths.

Police say nine or 10 people were killed in the shooting and that the suspect had been observed in Oslo before the explosion there.

However:

An early, unconfirmed report put the death much higher. An eyewitness told Norwegian broadcaster NRK that he saw 20 to 25 bodies on the shore and that there were more bodies in the water.

Too early too tell what is what exactly, but this is bad enough.

by Bernard on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:36:37 PM EST
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In the press conference, the Justice Minister confirmed the man arrested is Norwegian.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 04:56:46 PM EST
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in police press conference after the political one they said apparently to expect more bodies

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 at 05:57:25 PM EST
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