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"Uh, by not clearing €-Mark transactions with other countries and reissuing D-Mark notes."

€Mark? Petty.

And that is an illusion. You are basically arguing that because the Bundesbanks sometimes talks as if the still matter, they still matter. But they don't. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

"s, that's what I wrote: The German government and the BuBa pitched a hissy fit, and the rest of the EPP-PES shut up and fell back in line. You seem to be claiming that they would have done so even if Merkel and the BuBa had not pitched a hissy fit"

So the right-wing government of say the Netherlands are closeted Keynesians or even MMT people? And the act like they act only under german duress?

"Didn't say that. I said that neither understands national accounting. Which is true."

"National accounting" has nothing to do with taxation levels. The higher levels of taxation in the scandinavian countries or (somewhat) Germany is the result of prefered policies. As Bofinger pointed put, you can't run a good state on the tax levels of the US or Ireland. That has nothing not with current account balances; Ireland is running a surplus and a big budget deficit.

by IM on Sun Aug 14th, 2011 at 07:40:44 AM EST
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And that is an illusion. You are basically arguing that because the Bundesbanks sometimes talks as if the still matter, they still matter.

If they did not matter, they would be punished for breaking the rules of confidentiality that they themselves insisted on.

They're not, so they do.

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

They can increase bond spreads. And since the BuBa has been the most poisonously opposed to doing anything meaningful about those (that is, unrestricted primary market operations)...

So the right-wing government of say the Netherlands are closeted Keynesians

No, the Dutch are almost as insane as the BuBa. But the Spanish , Italian and French governments are just barely smart enough to see that the only solution to this crisis is to print money. German hissy fits at every mention of this solution is not a helpful part of the European political scene.

"National accounting" has nothing to do with taxation levels.

But everything to do with the ability of taxation levels to affect the sovereign budget outcome in the context of a deleveraging private sector.

As Bofinger pointed put, you can't run a good state on the tax levels of the US or Ireland. That has nothing not with current account balances;

The quite clear implication of the table Mig quoted was that if just the countries running sovereign deficits in excess of the Grief and Stupidity Pact limit would institute German levels of taxation, those sovereign deficits would go away.

That implication violates a couple of accounting identities.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Aug 14th, 2011 at 08:08:48 AM EST
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