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Russia needs democracy just like Libya does - Senator McCain
...US Senator and former presidential candidate John McCain has lashed out at Russia, saying it could be the next country to experience a Libya-style uprising.
...McCain is sure that the Arab Spring will rage on and will make it to countries like China and Russia, which according to him "need democracy" just as Libya does.
...Even as the National Transitional Council takes over in Tripoli, it is not the government chosen by the Libyan people. And many Libyans are outraged by the fact that foreign powers have essentially made this choice for them.And looking back to Egypt, people there too do not seem to have achieved what they were fighting for.
...As far as democracy is concerned in these countries, there are still a lot of questions, but according to McCain "It is all great and the fire of uprisings should move on to other countries."
And according to him the "next stop" is Syria. "After Gaddafi it is Bashar Assad who is next to fall," McCain said.
It is quite interesting that Senator McCain is pointing at some of the world's richest countries and basically calling for revolutions in those countries, presuming that their "livelihood is so bad, that they need to rebel immediately."
Meanwhile, polls show that most Americans are not happy with where their economy is going. And following McCain's logic the question arises: does this mean that Americans too need to take to the streets and revolt?

And this is another view to the situation in Libya"right now:
http://rt.com/news/death-victory-gaddafi-address-795-11-011/
Ted Rall, an American columnist and author says Libya is likely to be plunged into a long-running civil war.
"It's a striking replay of 2003, with the US invasion of Iraq, when the United States toppled a dictator who had effectively stifled his opposition, and [they] didn't know what they would be replacing him with,"

he told RT.
"We are seeing the same exact situation now in Libya. The Transitional Council is a hotchpotch of groups who inevitably are going to be in conflict with one another. Civil War is almost inevitable."
...Meanwhile, the National Transitional Council reports that 400 people have been killed and more than 2,000 injured over the last three days of fighting. Alternative reports claim that more than 1,000 people have died in the violence and NATO air strikes.
...Don DeBar, an anti-war activist and journalist, believes that whatever Colonel Gaddafi or the rebel leaders say, it is practically impossible to verify what is true or false at this point.
"But certainly what has been coming from the Western media has been proven to be lies," he declared. "Gaddafi opened up the armories to the people of Libya, more than a million rifles and other arms have been handed out to the people of Tripoli. The claim that has been made by the so-called `progressive' media of the United States is that Gaddafi is a hated dictator and that this is an indigenous rebellion. The dictator does not hand people guns and say: `Please, defend me!'"


Oh enough of me posting on this topic. I just wanted to show you that there is another angle to see things not just that that western media presents.
And do not get me wrong, I am not defending Gadaffi ...I wouldn't defend anybody staying for 40 years in power...but that's another story.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Thu Aug 25th, 2011 at 12:51:05 AM EST
vbo:
I just wanted to show you that there is another angle to see things not just that that western media presents.

vbo, you've been on ET since the beginning. If you think we're all idiots who drink the western media like Koolaid, then you haven't understood anything you have read here.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Aug 25th, 2011 at 07:39:59 AM EST
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I didn't think so, that's why I am still here.
Honestly we may not agree on many things (especially about Serbia) but reading ET is pleasure and enlightening for me.


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Thu Aug 25th, 2011 at 08:54:05 AM EST
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The dictator does not hand people guns and say: `Please, defend me!'"

He also promises wads of cash.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 05:32:12 AM EST
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and you got those rooftop snipers, shooting everything that moves.

He probably thought that he was invulnerable, because the people loved him and would fight to the last drop of blood. If they had in fact done so, Tripoli would not have fallen.

I suspect he's feeling disappointed and bewildered now.

And there is a large population of disappointed, bewildered and armed Ghaddafi supporters at large. Things could stay messy for quite a while; but I suspect that only a small minority will stay loyal to him.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 06:10:20 AM EST
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IMHO the big issue is not a small minority staying loyal but the integration of the sizeable minority who once were loyal to the regime. Loyalty to the old regime is not the only possible motivation to oppose a new regime, as Iraq has shown.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 06:13:51 AM EST
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