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Building humans is fun, but not all that interesting, really. We already know how to do it. Solved problem.

The real problem is that if we built an AI that wasn't more or less human we'd probably be too stupid to recognize it.

As for "An Aspergers AI", I despair. Really? You mean one that's a bit impaired at things like human status games?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Aug 26th, 2011 at 12:41:06 PM EST
As for "An Aspergers AI", I despair. Really? You mean one that's a bit impaired at things like human status games?

No, he means the rational processor.

Despair indeed.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Aug 27th, 2011 at 03:13:35 AM EST
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I was looking for this response in the comment thread. :-)

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Aug 27th, 2011 at 10:09:44 PM EST
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@argeezer - In no way do I discount the need for an overriding mechanism to deal with the combinatorial explosion (cf Toobey and Cosmides "The Adapted Mind") and that mechanism can be called emotion, but humans have a lot of instincts that generate the wrong emotions (The Feeling of What Happens, Antonio Damasio) so what I suspect will happen is that human scientists will heuristically select out or dampen some of the more destructive emotions (Blink by Gladwell) and their endocrine processes.

Perhaps just changing a global voltage level, slowing parallelism in a group of processors. It would depend on the eventual architecture, but would be different certainly from what would be called for, or even be possible, with linear computing.

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by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sun Aug 28th, 2011 at 01:51:33 AM EST
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humans have a lot of instincts that generate the wrong emotions

A friend and I, in an unaccustomed outbreak of Techno-Utopianism, inverted War Games.  The plot of a movie revolved around the computer "waking-up," becoming a Buddhist.  It then refused to even consider harming Sentient Beings and locked-out the Command and Control systems controlling the US nuclear arsenal.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Aug 28th, 2011 at 03:30:03 PM EST
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Colman:
Building humans is fun, but not all that interesting, really. We already know how to do it. Solved problem.

what on earth do you mean by that? in a sheerly physical sense? what's uninteresting about 'building' humans?

seems to me if it were so cut and dried we'd have  different results, but i probably am missing your point.

are you referring to cloning humans, by chance?

 

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Aug 28th, 2011 at 06:05:19 AM EST
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Sam and I built two recently. Wasn't that much hassle, for me at least.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 12:46:44 PM EST
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Colman:
You mean one that's a bit impaired at things like human status games?

that would be a feature, not a bug, lol.

i think he meant that they might be freakishly good at something most humans balk at, but they also may be totally lacking in such human nuances as tact, or humility, respect for others, or scanning of emotional tone... all notes, no music.

maybe they would come optionally equipped with snark apps though.

computers can be unselfconsciously hilarious, but they don't get their own jokes...

i remember some mashups of buddhist wisdom in the early noughties that were roll-on-the-floor funny, as parodies.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 03:49:21 PM EST
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Yeah, but you see, that bears no relation to Aspergers in any way. At all.

computers can be unselfconsciously hilarious, but they don't get their own jokes...


That we know of.

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by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2011 at 04:48:41 PM EST
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