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Sir Hugh Orde: Water cannon make for good headlines - and bad policing - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent
Equally, to suggest human rights get in the way of effective policing is simply wrong. The proportionate use of force up to and including lethal force is both lawful and human rights compliant.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Aug 11th, 2011 at 06:16:23 AM EST
More about British policing: Police must show there is no bias against black people (By Brian Paddick)
The police should be the servants of the people, acting on behalf of the community they should be protecting. Failure to actively demonstrate that they are listening to and acting on community concerns, failure to align themselves with community priorities or show that they are "their" police, will inevitably result in a growing belief that the police are against the community, and not part of it.

I was a sergeant on the streets during the 1981 Brixton riots. Together with 10 officers hiding behind our plastic shields, we became the focus for community hatred, pelted with bricks and broken paving slabs. The police and the community tried to rebuild some kind of relationship - it took a long time. Twenty years later I became the police commander there. After 15 months, when I was moved out of Brixton, there were protests - it had been quite a turnaround from 1981. Do the people of Tottenham have to wait 20 years for the weekend's scars to heal?

Not if the police take action now to rebuild the burning bridges. In the aftermath of the Brixton riots, as we patrolled Railton Road and chased suspected criminals into the illegal gambling dens, those suspected of mugging were thrown back out into our arms, but the older black men guarding the doors would protect those we thought might have cannabis on them. They thought we were wasting our time policing "weed". Two decades later, it was clear from discussions with local community leaders that it was crack cocaine and heroin that were ruining young people's lives at that time, not cannabis, and that is what that community wanted its police to concentrate on.

Economics is politics by other means
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 12th, 2011 at 04:08:05 AM EST
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Now put those two articles together with this one from the BBC: Looting 'reminiscent of LA riots'
"One of the first things we did initially was to back off from the flashpoint of the riot, but we realised after a while we had to send in more cops and just have an overwhelming show of force and take a lot of people to jail."

That was a similar approach to that taken by British police in London.

So that's one thing the LA police is not criticising.
"We have embraced community policing - we really work a lot more in partnership with the different communities and we do everything we can to keep things calm when bad things happen and make things better in any way we can.
British police is big on the concept of community policing (see Paddick above). Whether they do it effectively is another matter. But then
The former LAPD chief credited with driving this process, and dramatically reducing crime after the riots, is Bill Bratton - dubbed a "US Supercop" by the British newspapers.

At one point he was apparently being considered for the job as Britain's top policeman, the new Commissioner of London's Metropolitan police.

He is the man Prime Minister David Cameron is now turning to for help and advice.


He could just fund his own damn police.

Economics is politics by other means

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 12th, 2011 at 04:12:04 AM EST
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See Brian Paddick criticises police over riots on BBC Question Time [video]

Economics is politics by other means
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 12th, 2011 at 09:53:13 AM EST
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