very good discussion, birth pangs of a Neuropa?

going on the timetested principle that we learn to do things well by first doing them badly, what do we save to bring forward, and what do we leave behind?

perhaps it would be worth losing a common currency in order to save the cultural melting pot europe has grown towards since 30-40 years ago?

maybe the common currency can only work after other solidarity issues have been troubleshot?

is a common currency a cherry more than a cake? a cart, rather than the horse? a metaphor, not a successful one?

trying to undo all the institutional bonding that forms the warp of europe to the woof of its currencerial convenience will be a lot harder than people think, in other words many, many europeans feel equally european as they do feel nationalistic (except for during the world cup!).

it would make so much more sense to keep all the good agencies created for the whole continent and sacrifice what we know now for sure doesn't work, eg letting a few suits have too much power behind the curtain.

letting the european dream shatter into shards again won't be attractive to many voters, notwithstanding the idiot wind that is blowing now and has raptured our present leadership of neolib/con midgets.

the truth has been beyond the ken of the common man for two centuries, since the middle class outnumbered the wealthy, and the veil of discretion hid the machinery that banks and governments collude with to subjugate people.

looks like events will keep renting that veil.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty