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As I (tried to) explain here, Sarah Palin never seriously considered being a candidate. But looking like one was enormously profitable.

The problem the repugs have is that their internal electorate is insane, or rather it is that for the last 15 years the ptb, eg Fox, Kochs etc, within the GOP have found it convenient for their purposes to create an alternative reality  which only marginally intersects with the fact-based universe. As somebody pointed out, people who watch Fox are more mis-informed about the world than people who don't read newspapers or watch any television at all. And to support this "world view" they have funded an entire generation of politicians who live in this delusional world and vote accordingly.

They have largely gotten by because people like Bush or McCain could play at being normal human beings most of the time, they weren't sufficiently invested in the world to have an opinion about anything and, besides which, managers like Rove could spin the message for them. But the GOP base has become too crazy, the Tea Party became a monster, however much it was fostered and encouraged as a tool of the elites, they were just a mob who ran amok and insist to this day on a list of contradictory impossibilities to make the Queen of Hearts blush with pride.

And they've run out of people who can square the circle, candidates who can tick the conservative boxes while still being able to avoid drooling in public. The people who stand any chance of getting through the Primary have to have an unblemished record of such complete craziness that they are unelectable to the rest of the country.

Romney is failing because he's trying to convince the lunatics he's one of them when they can see he isn't. The more he panders to them, the more they hate him. And there just aren't enough non-lunatics left in the GOP for him to get there without them.

I think he will get there courtesy of a fix from the ptb. That or any of the others who looks good for 5 minutes will implode under questioning.

Obama must be the luckiest guy on the planet cos he really really screwed up bigger than Carter and will still get back in

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 10:29:25 AM EST
Thing is, 2010 with Big Oil whipping the base into a frenzy, to slow down health reform to kill the Energy bill, resuslted in all those crazies getting nominated ~ some elected, some losing races less extreme reactionaries would have won.

Now, the reactionaries in the US may all look to y'all as so far over the line that from their position, "the line looks like a dot" ~ but there's careful reactionary extremism that waits until the propoganda has prepared the electorate, and then there's the crazy reactionary extremism.

The crazies convinced every single one of the strongest to sit out this year and let the backlash, either this year or in the massive drubbing one of these hacks would face in 2014, chasten the base for either 2016 or 2020.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:01:19 AM EST
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but, as the base are insane, how could a dose of reality impact them ?

What would stop this would be that they lose the house and the Senate big time, with filibuster proof majorities and actually do some real good (yes I know but..). For that to happen they really need a Romney to win who will depress the crayzee vote

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:12:05 AM EST
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I don't believe there are enough sane and engaged Americans out there to vote an overwhelming shift in the congressional balance of power (to the Democratic side).

Problem is, as you've indicated, most voting Americans get their "news" by tuning in to FOX or some other such conservative propaganda machine. The FOX message is simple, even if not well documented; it is easy to absorb, relentless, and appealing to the mindless one stop, get it quick personality types who tune in. As has been repeatedly demonstrated, money and relentless advertising sways opinion; i.e., votes can be bought and in American politics elections, as well as congressional voting patterns, are most often simply purchased/influenced by money.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:57:50 AM EST
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"Engaged" being the key word.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 12:23:51 PM EST
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Yes, unfortunately the insane are likely very much engaged.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 09:43:07 PM EST
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While, fortunately, only a minority of the electorate gets their news straight from Faux News / Limbaugh, etc., its true that an unfortunate number get their news instad from a compliant corporate mess media, tracking for the middle ground between radical insanity and less pronounced insanity.  So the whole dance is much like the Whigs and the Democrats arguing over tariff rates in te 1830's and attempting to ignore the issue of chattel slavery in a state founded on seizing and commercializing Native American lands through sweat equity.

Still, even if the result at presence may be akin to a choice between more and less severe psychoses .... its a regularity of American politics that the primary base electorates on both sides become more anxious to win and more willing to sacrifice "bedrock" principles the longer they are kept out of the White House.

2004 was an unusual case, because of the Supreme Court sanctioned coup ad then the massive post-911 approval ratings of Bush ~ the Democrats went immediately into "pick the electable candidate.

But R's in 1964, after 8 years in, 4 years out, pick "Extremism is no vice". D's in 1972, after 8 years in 4 years out pick Dove McGovern. R's in 1980, after 8 yrs in, 4 yrs out pick Conservative heart-throb Reagan. The Democrats answer after 4 years out under a former ad then anti-New Dealer with unreconstructed Farmer Labor Party New Dealer in Mondale.

Contrast - after 20 years, and losing with New Deal Rollback Dewey,the R's euphorically nominate Ike. After 8 years of Ike, the Democrats pick the Cold War Hawk Kennedy to tackle a Cold Warrior Republican. After 8 years out, the R's pick the Nixon they distrust over the Reagan they fear the general elctorate dstrusts. After 8 years, the D's pick perceived Southern moderate Carter. After 12 years, the D's pick perceived border Southern moderate Clinton. After 8 yrs, and the rise and fall of "nasty Conservatives" like Newt, the R's pick " compassionate conservative" Bush.

Its as natural as breathing that about 5 Republicans who were afraid that the curent base primary electorate would force them into crippling positions would expect more freedom to run between the base and the swing indepependents if the current crop tried and came up short.

And plus, under Citizens Utd, President Obama will have a war chest of 1b+. A democrat who is not the incumbent won't be expected to have as much in 2016.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 01:58:25 PM EST
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Obama's problem is that he is committed to politics as a process, not as a set of defined outcomes. However that process only works positively insofar as the participants can connect to the real world.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:17:06 AM EST
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Refer to the ET classic: Obama, John Rawls, and a Defense of the Unreasonable by Nonpartisan on June 13th, 2009.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:59:43 AM EST
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All I can say is that I want to enjoy the lulz of Santorum promising to get rid of birth control.

I can't believe he actually said this out loud.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 12:57:40 PM EST
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are there any repugs NOT signed on to destroy contraception and abortion ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 01:03:02 PM EST
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Abortion?  None in the race.  

But contraception?  Opposition to contraception tends to be a fringe Catholic thing.  And even politicians and activists who oppose it don't tend to actually say so out loud.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 01:20:01 PM EST
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I love the idea of the Pope as a fringe Catholic...!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 02:07:45 PM EST
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They've been pushing hard at the state level in Republican dominated states across the country to enact restrictions on contraception.

The personhood amendment went down in Mississippi, but it was a come from behind victory for the supporters of continued right to contraception.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 07:14:13 PM EST
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Even if there is, they don't have any National standing.

The GOP is a religious Party whose activists and base are primary Fundamentalist Christian wackos.  You Yurpeens have a cognitive bias, you keep expecting the US to have a European-style secular culture.  We don't.  The GOP wants a Saudi Arabia with the Ruling Class dominating through the Financial Sector, instead of oil production.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 01:25:53 PM EST
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Well, Governor Romney was pro-choice.

But of course presidential candidate Romney is pro-life.

Mitt Romney on Abortion

Top Romney Flip Flops: #1. Abortion:

In October 2002, campaigning for governorship of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney said he would "preserve and protect" a woman's right to choose. He now describes himself as opposing abortion.



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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 01:55:54 PM EST
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Romney is pro-Romney.

Everything he does is subject to that.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:04:09 PM EST
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He would asset strip his own mother...and outsource his children... if it got him the White House

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:16:32 PM EST
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