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With Liz Warren and Alan Grayson around, I think the dems'll be fine

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 03:47:42 PM EST
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Looking like Warren is going to take the Senate seat.

Grayson?  I don't know.  If he is going to run in 2016 he has to start running now: getting a team together, making contact with local organizers, making contact with state party figures, making TV and radio appearances, & etc.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:03:02 PM EST
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Sure, but there are also the others, like Stewart Alexander and Ralph Nader and Gavin Newsom out there ready to split up the vote. It's not whether you like one or the other of them, it's that our system doesn't currently have a way to do any sorting of the options before going to the public arena.
by asdf on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:05:40 PM EST
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don't know Alexander or Newsom to say.

Nader, however, is a egotist little shit.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:34:19 PM EST
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Sure, he's just like Ron Paul from the political viewpoint. (Although he's right on most of the issues, unlike Paul who is from outer space.)

But the point is that the system doesn't have a way to flush out the less likely players, so what is going on in the GOP right now is just a regular part of the process. A part that could be better done in private.

by asdf on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:40:12 PM EST
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I know some otherwise intelligent people who not only support Ron Paul but are also working in his campaign, for three reasons:

  1.  He's the only one in the race saying we need to knock it off with the US bombing brown people

  2.  He's in favor of ending the "War on Drugs"

  3.  He wants to end the Federal government support for the Financial sector

The rest of his "Forward to 1852!" poppycock they could care less about.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:50:14 PM EST
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Yeah, and I know also some that say that some of his ideas would never get past Congress anyway. Like selling off federally owned land, which is something like 1/3 of the area of the country.

Maybe the thing to do is only look at the things he could do by executive order. Not bombing brown skinned people is one of those things, and its continuance is one of Obama's main shortcomings...

by asdf on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 04:59:39 PM EST
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Paul could move the Overton window on Foreign policy in ways that might suit Democrats if they are smart about leveraging his influence.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 05:44:14 PM EST
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They don't want to, for good and bad reasons.  One good reason is withdrawing money from the Military would also crater what little manufacturing the US has left.  One bad reason is withdrawing money from the Military would end 72 years of the liberal interventionist foreign policy of bombing people for their own good.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 05:57:48 PM EST
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