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I'm with you on this issue melo. Nukes (in the long term anyway) are far too risky. Just because there hasn't been a major accident so far in Europe, doesn't mean there never will be. I doubt seriously Three Mile Island, Chernobyl or Fukushima were planned events. Nobody's got a crystal ball. Who knows for sure what will happen in the future? The nuke technology certainly hasn't proved to be fail safe. And then there is the huge dilemma of where to safely store the nuclear waste produced by this type of energy, which I don't believe has been fully or satisfactorily addressed either.

The saving grace is that there are alternatives, namely wind, solar, geothermal, etc. Should it be that TPTB decide that the incentives are ripe to switch to these alternative energies and move forward full throttle, both coal and nukes could be phased out.

While there's always been known knowns and unknown knowns, it's the unknown knowns that concern me most. And the possible ramifications of nuclear power use fall squarely in the latter category imo.

by sgr2 on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 10:55:36 AM EST
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A civilization which produces a significant portion of its sustenance from a factory farm system which has more adverse effect on climate change than transportation or power, which produces hugely polluting unchecked waste, which produces the conditions for advanced mutations of diseases, which has to use so much antibiotics that resistant strains are becoming the norm, and which allows no effective monitoring or regulation...

is not mature enough to split the atom with respect for the entire cycle.

You are what you eat. The technocratic view of the nuclear cycle, that it's manageable, may well be true, but it is not manageable by this civilization.

Technocrats always view nuclear power in isolation, which just can't be done.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 11:24:14 AM EST
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Could a mod please delete this comment. it does not belong here in this French election diary.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 11:44:08 AM EST
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as nuclear energy is likely going to continue to be a real part of the election debate, this whole thread is not really so off-topic.

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 11:46:28 AM EST
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well, ok.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 11:49:38 AM EST
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Factory farms: A perfect example of what's gone wrong and why we find ourselves in the situation we're in. But when the players/TPTB are Monsanto and the like, what else can be expected? Round-Up to the rescue. GMO seeds for everybody.

What is manageable (in a good way I mean) by this civilization? Sometimes one wonders.

by sgr2 on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:25:54 PM EST
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So far TPTB have managed to refrain from turning the planet into a radioactive cinder, something I wouldn't have bet a large amount of money on in the 1960s.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 12:39:53 PM EST
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When thought of from that point of view you're right, AT. And that's good news for all of us.
by sgr2 on Thu Jan 5th, 2012 at 01:46:33 PM EST
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I would have bet a large amount of money on that in the 1960s, had I had the option. If the planet is covered in a shallow layer of radioactive glass, then the bet is void by virtue of me, my bookie or both being dead anyway, so such a bet would be all upside.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jan 6th, 2012 at 07:42:40 AM EST
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